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Old 11-15-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

i'm assuming he's playing on a small fishy site.

i once played on a swedish site (a year ago or so) and the players were beyond horrible.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

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i'm assuming he's playing on a small fishy site.

i once played on a swedish site (a year ago or so) and the players were beyond horrible.

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But you grew tired of super soft swedish 400NL ???
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

could only play 2 tables at a time (back then). plus people chatting in swedish put me on tilt.

i might have to visit the site again actually.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

I can't believe you're grinding away on Stars when you have fishy site options. I wish I wasn't limited to Stars...
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

i don't know if i still have that option. it was pre-legislation.

the site was a pokerroom on Tradesports (i was dabbling in options at TS). TS gave you access to some swedish site, but it wasn't TS's own poker room. whole thing was weird.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

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could only play 2 tables at a time (back then). plus people chatting in swedish put me on tilt.

i might have to visit the site again actually.

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r
Yeah people going "bork bork björn borg chocolate mousse" in the chat have often annoyed me enough to say: screw these juicy 400NL tables.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

Well Gelford, I'm with Derosnec - I just don't get it.

To me, this debate isn't about stats or style, it's about one thing and one thing only: where do our profits in NL come from?

2+2 would have us believe they come from:

1. Standard value-taking with our good hands
2. Selective aggression and risk taking when we have a bad or marginal hand - for example shoving for FE, 3b light, bluff raising, positional stealing, squeezing etc.

But our friend Coco would apparently disagree as I cannot see how ANY of those things in #2 are a large part of his game.

I mean, does Coco fold to all aggression and hardly ever attempt to make people fold? It certainly looks that way to me. I mean, just look at the lack of variance in his graph - it's incredible.

People say you become too exploitable if you fold to raises a lot and just play ABC for value. Well, Coco is evidence this may not be true up to 400NL. I would love to try an experiment where I fold every time I am raised, never bluff, only put money into pots for value, never shove etc.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

You seem to be assuming this guy is playing at FTP/Stars. He isn't.

The only thing I'm taking out that thread is "move to Sweden".
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

chomp, it's likely that coco plays against retards on a small site, not against msnl regs (like aejones, etc).

when i played live this summer for a week in vegas (200nl), my stats were probably like coco's because my opponents had an IQ of roughly zero
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)

It really depends, if it is a only swedish room than his accomplishment is ok, but not great.
I can play NL1k live at my local card room with a 5/5 style and be a constant winner.
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