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Old 11-17-2007, 06:09 PM
sh58 sh58 is offline
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Default donk shove in 3bet pot

villain is 58/31/3.7 over 800 hands

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Party Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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sh58 (BB): $262.95
UTG: $187.15
MP: $207.65
CO: $208.75
BTN: $184
SB: $108.15

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to sh58 (BB)
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $10</font>, <font color="red">sh58 raises to $33</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $23

Flop: ($70) K 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $75.15 and is All-In</font>
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:13 PM
vetiver vetiver is offline
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Default Re: donk shove in 3bet pot

Fold? Even with a player this aggressive I don't think you can hope for anything better than JT/QJ/QT, which still has like 40% equity against you. You could even be dominated by hands which he thinks could be bluffs... 88+, T9, etc.

EDIT: Didn't realize the pot was the size of his donkbet and you're getting exactly 2-1. This probably tilts either way with no major EV margin... if he's donking that much with those stats maybe just give it to him and dominate w/ a stronger hand later.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: donk shove in 3bet pot

I think you can let this go... if you're beat you're drawing thin - and if you're ahead its not by too much.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: donk shove in 3bet pot

I would fold it. Even against an optimistic range I don't think you have enough equity to call.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: donk shove in 3bet pot

easy fold you dont beat much
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: donk shove in 3bet pot

33% equity needed vs his range. (obviously)

i agree that we are SA/WB but if we are SA then folding is a pretty big mistake
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: donk shove in 3bet pot

I hate the 3bet preflop. Somebody with these stats isn't folding very often, leading to frequent spots like this.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: donk shove in 3bet pot

we are sometimes slightly ahead and sometimes way behind. as we dont know his hand, you cant just say that its a bad fold because we could be slightly ahead.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:22 PM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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What are we SA of? Overcards + gutshot?
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: donk shove in 3bet pot

AQ/AJ/AT I guess

with reads this could be a call
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