NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

[solvine]

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $78.60
SB: $149.50
BB: $97.90
Hero (UTG): $109.35
UTG+1: $26
MP: $44.55
CO: $100

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, 4 folds, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($8) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $15</font>, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($38) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24

River: ($86) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $86</font>, Hero ????


villain is 21/9/2

put him either 44/KQ/AK on flop

then when the 4 paired on turn i ruled out 44. should i have still folded on turn as his AF is only 2???

[pattay]

this is pretty meh. do you have any kind of notes or gut feelings about the villain? i think i just fold this river, as the only hands i can put him on that we dont lose to are AK or air, like j 10 or something. i probably play the hand before the river the same FWIW

[Effen]

Looks like KQ. I think I'd fold it as it's such a strong line.

[TakenItEasy]

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put him either 44/KQ/AK on flop


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so with only 26% equity against his range why call on the flop?

[Rambino]

Your hand is pretty obvious, so he is loudly declaring that (a) he can beat AK/AA, and (b) his has isn't strong enough to slowplay to the turn.

So probably 2p. Unless you have reason to think that he would bluff this hard, or play a JT draw this hard (and it doesn't sound like you do), he pretty much has you beat.

I think your two choices are folding on the flop, maybe turn, or 3-bet the flop hard to represent a monster. The latter option also assumes something about the size of your underpants.

[TakenItEasy]

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3-bet the flop hard to represent a monster. The latter option also assumes something about the size of your underpants.

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top 2 or set doesn't fold nearly often enough to risk $100 for $29

[Ctrl.Dominate]

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put him either 44/KQ/AK on flop


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so with only 26% equity against his range why call on the flop?

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This was my first thought. I may add J10 to his range also.

[Grinding2Ecstasy]

Not sure how tricky opponent is, but u did kinda telegraph your hand. I think you took a really weak line and cost yourself more to find out the info. I personally think u have to either fold on the flop, or be willing to get it in on the flop. Going into a shell and just calling down looks weak and is costly if you're ever folding to a river shove after calling all that money down. If you're not folding to a river shove then just get it in on the flop. I REALLY dislike the turn flat call.

[coordi]

I think you should fold turn. calling river is really bad imo, so deffinately fold. Your just not beating much and without reads hes capable of doing this with j10 its easy fold..

[illini43]

I'm fine with the flop call behind as a lot of people will "almost" min-raise with trash trying to push you off a hand.

Turn is a definite fold IMO. He c/r you and potted the turn. I think this is KQ/44/AK here almost all the time. I have rarely seen a hand like JT played this hard - reads would help.