Deep-stacked flop decision

[SteveL91]

Here's a hand from tonight that I think I may have misplayed. I suspect one of my biggest weaknesses with PLO (and big-bet poker in general) is that I'm not much of a gambler, and that gets in the way. Couple that with an overall lack of confidence and poor results, and it's not a pretty picture.

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $38
Hero: $581.15
CO: $50
Button: $65.40
SB: $564.95
BB: $165.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $9</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $38</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($116, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $113</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $127.9</font>, Hero?

I didn't have a read on the guy who re-raised PF as I had never seen him before. The flop bettor struck me as someone who was prone to chasing pretty weak draws in crappy spots. For example, he overcalled the flop with BPNK and a crap FD and bet out (potted) the turn when he picked up 2 pr. Suffice it to say, he can be aggressive, but I wouldn't label him a LAG PF or post-flop.

With each of us having nearly 300BBs, I wasn't sure how to handle the flop.

Thanks,
Steve

[Wu36]

i suck at this game, so ill just post some random equity sims and hope others chime in.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2396056
pokenum -o as ah 5h 5s - 9c js qs th -- 9s 7s 2c
Omaha Hi: 820 enumerated boards containing 9s 7s 2c
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 5s Ah 5h 543 66.22 277 33.78 0 0.00 0.662
Qs Js 9c Th 277 33.78 543 66.22 0 0.00 0.338


cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
5s Ad Ah 5h 274 33.41 546 66.59 0 0.00 0.334
Qs Js 9c Th 546 66.59 274 33.41 0 0.00 0.666


8s 6s 9h 7h 431 52.56 389 47.44 0 0.00 0.526
Qs Js 9c Th 389 47.44 431 52.56 0 0.00 0.474

7c 6c 7h 5h 484 59.02 336 40.98 0 0.00 0.590
Qs Js 9c Th 336 40.98 484 59.02 0 0.00 0.410

[GAL]

I would fold this you could be drawing dead. Calling is the worst option IMO. SB must have a set to lead into the PFRR and you.

[wazz]

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SB must have a set to lead into the PFRR and you.

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That's exceedingly stupid logic if it can be called logic at all.

My first thoughts were that calling and folding are both roughly 0 EV, but I think folding may be a small mistake here. You're closing the action and getting good odds, call and reevaluate turn.

[MHP]

A case could be made for calling this and seeing a turn due to the size of the pot and implied odds. You got top pair with a gutshot and a medium flush draw. I think this is 70% fold and 30% call depending on how much of a gambling mood your in.

[Wu36]

oh wow, didnt notice the pfrr was the shortstack. anyone care to think up a range for sb?

[TheRempel]

If the flop bettor is that much of a donk I think a push is really sexy. You are actually in good shape against a small wrap and great shape vs two pair. If anything it's unlikely he has a set because he would much more likely wait for the reraiser to push so he can jack the pot up.

[wazz]

I really don't like a shove here. Thinking about it more, I dislike a fold even more than I do a shove, but calling is the best option here.

[TheRempel]

Why? What range would you put the bettor on that you are in bad shape against? I think you have 45% equity on average against both players and probably 60% equity against his range in the side pot.

[CrushinFelt]

The problem remple is if our flush draw is dead. Of course then we're not dead because of straight or two-pair outs (maybe). The reason I am having a hard time saying push is not because I am having a hard time putting the SB on a range we are in bad shape against, but because what range are we in good shape against? (two coldcalls preflop could very easily be a wrap that crushed this flop.