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Old 11-06-2007, 03:48 PM
GrandMelon GrandMelon is offline
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Default 400: fire 1 more?

Villain is lionel786, a solid, fairly straightforward 16/11/3 TAG. We dont have much history and I have a fairly spewy image today.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP1: $224
Hero (MP2): $394
CO: $115.95
BTN: $386
SB: $697.20
BB: $199
UTG: $358.65
UTG+1: $164.95

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $14, BB folds

Flop: ($36) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $24</font>, SB calls $24

Turn: ($84) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $56</font>, SB calls $56

River: ($196) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:53 PM
AllTheCheese AllTheCheese is offline
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Default Re: 400: fire 1 more?

No. The minimum Ace a 16/11 calls SB preflop with is AJ and the minimum Queen he calls is KQ. When he calls the turn, he either has two pair and is letting you bluff or he has AJ. He folds AJ but calls AQ, AK, KQ and a set of 3s. Check.
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:56 PM
AlexB182 AlexB182 is offline
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Default Re: 400: fire 1 more?

I think you can give up here, looks as if he is pretty much in call down mode with something like top pair or two pair hand. I don't see to many hands he could have that you could push him off: QdJd would be possible, but would he call PF and on the flop with that? Would he have reraised JJ/TT PF? Still I don't see how he could have gotten to the river with either one of these hands. And: would he be able to fold something like AJ when the river bricked that heavily? If he thought he was in front on flop and turn then river has not changed that...
So, I think I give up here though I hate it and maybe this is a leak I have to work on...
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: 400: fire 1 more?

Whatever he got here with, he's not folding imo.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: 400: fire 1 more?

I think a turn check is in order tbh.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:56 PM
Kos13 Kos13 is offline
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Default Re: 400: fire 1 more?

Is this turn bet standard at 2/4 and/or with your image?
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: 400: fire 1 more?

I usually overbet shove here to keep in line with my made hands.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:48 PM
Mike Kelley Mike Kelley is offline
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I usually overbet shove here to keep in line with my made hands.

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Awesome.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:02 PM
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I usually overbet shove here to keep in line with my made hands.

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Awesome.

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That probably does work here too.
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