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Old 07-30-2007, 04:54 AM
cowpig cowpig is offline
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Default QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

Unknown villain sits with $1665, first hand:


*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cowpig [Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
cowpig raises to $45
villain calls $30
*** FLOP *** [7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] (Pot $90)
villain bets $15
cowpig has 15 seconds left to act
cowpig raises to $95
villain raises to $1,620.05, and is all in

$1525 more, $280...
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Old 07-30-2007, 05:47 AM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

this looks either like 89 clubs or set looking to b3b i think i can find a fold
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

IMHO either a set or nut-draw.
Given the possibility of a set and bad odds for an improvement I say that's a fold.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

guys wtf when is this ever a set
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

set? when villain got top set and puts hero on a flush draw or a lower set.
or when villain got middle set or bottom set and puts hero on flush draw
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:28 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

Its more likely T7 than it is a set. Dunno wtf he's on doing this, since its his first hand and you have no reads, I fold here. Can't him doing it with much you're in good shape against but then again who knows.
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Old 07-30-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

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guys wtf when is this ever a set

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Thats my thoughts. I'm not great at deep stacks, but this looks like a massive combo draw.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

On first look i thought board was mono. Is this easier/harder on a mono flop (with Qs obv)

I think vs a guy who sat with 1600 this is a call. He never ever ever plays a set like this.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

wtf you guys this is heads up, since when is this a set? and for people saying massive combo draw if you mean massive ANYTHING draw like any naked flush draw or straight draw then i'd be inclined to agree. you deifnitely see T7 sometimes but you also see AT or KT since people have no idea how to play heads up so they think "top pair, ok arr in"

this is such an easy call to me...
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: QQ facing overbet shove, 7.5/15 deep

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wtf you guys this is heads up, since when is this a set? and for people saying massive combo draw if you mean massive ANYTHING draw like any naked flush draw or straight draw then i'd be inclined to agree. you deifnitely see T7 sometimes but you also see AT or KT since people have no idea how to play heads up so they think "top pair, ok arr in"

this is such an easy call to me...

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What duck said.....
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