When can I get away from this hand?

[mattnxtc]

I know I completely spewed some streets here.

In this kind of situation when can I get away from this hand?

Villain: 35/20/1.75

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $10.35
Mattnxtc: $19.75
CO: $11.20
Button: $24.90
SB: $10.55
BB: $3

Pre-flop: (6 players) Mattnxtc is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Mattnxtc raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Mattnxtc caps</font>, CO calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10.4SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Mattnxtc bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Mattnxtc 3-bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8.2BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Mattnxtc bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Mattnxtc calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.2BB, 2 players)
Mattnxtc checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Mattnxtc calls.

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Absolution is right...at .5/1 if you are finding someone who runs at or near 30/20 they are generally aggro tards who get torn up post flop.

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You mean they bet/3-bet AK on J83 flop after they capped PF?

Sorry, couldnt restrain myself.


What range of hands do you put him on when you bet/call the turn and c/c the river?

Assuming he has a worse hand, what range of hands do you think he puts you on after the PF cap and flop bet/3-bet?


I am a jerk bla bla. But this hand is so incredibly poorly played.


With the reads you posted (none): Bet/call flop c/f turn. He doesnt have a worse enough given the action.



BTW. If LAGs tilt you enough to make these kind of plays you need to stop playing LHE.

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I think his range here is 88, JJ-AA and maybe AJ. Best case scenario is QQ where all 6 of your outs are clean.

I would just call the flop raise, and consider c/f a non diamond turn.

By 3betting the flop, you are setting yourself up to get punished by stronger hands. As played, the turn should def be a fold.

[mattnxtc]

Oink...

I wish I was tilting in this hand as it would make some sense. This was more a symptom of me 4 tabling with the tv on and not paying enough attention.

When I looked back over this hand I couldnt believe how I played it.


And I said they "generally" suck and go aggrotard...I took a lot back from this guy later on in other hands, but this is one where I had a brain fart.

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The thing is you just cost yourself 4 BB's.

If you crush your games at 2BB/100 thats 200 hands you now have to play to make up for it. Or 400 hands if you are a 1BB/100 player.


If you want to be succesfull in LHE you need to stop doing stuff like this.

between this hand and the AQ hand you posted I think its safe to assume that you raise flop donks and flop raises too much.

Whats your flop AF if I may ask?

[mattnxtc]

I know..thats part of the reason I posted it...I was looking at how badly I spewed it and basically was embarrassed.

Flop aggression is at 1.7 right now.

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Flop aggression is at 1.7 right now.

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Wow, thats actually lowish. Ok so disregard my stupid remarks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[mattnxtc]

haha I would like to think I am getting more aggressive as I play more hands ( I still have less than 10k hands at shlhe, so can I get a pass on still sucking?? haha).

What bothers me most is that I do stuff like this in a lot of sessions. I actually finished this session up 2.5PTBB/100 this session, but if I could avoid crap like this it obviously is going way up...

Is c/c down the best play with possibly folding the river UI? or just c/c down?

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Is c/c down the best play with possibly folding the river UI? or just c/c down?

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Naah. Given the action I'd call his flop raise and fold the turn UI.

he will rarely be doing this with a worse hand and your pair outs are pretty philthy. Turn is close tho as the pot is big'ish. 7BB(?)

[mattnxtc]

Thanks...callin down in hands like this UI is something I am working to improve on anyways.