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Old 08-02-2007, 09:40 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

Incredible $10/20 6-max table. Everyone is a moron, including me of course.

UTG limps, MP limps, CO limps. Standard. I raise ATs on the button.
SB threebets, call, call, call, CO caps, lol, we see a flop six ways.

Flop is KQ2 rainbow and they check it to me.

Anyone want to bet? Why, or why not?

Guy.
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

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Anyone want to bet?

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Nope!

- You dont have the best hand.
- You dont fold better hands
- You dont have enough eq to worry about protection
- You will be c/r'ed with significant probability.
- You will rarely get the free river.


I would take the free card while I still can and hope to improve.
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

Agree with Oink, wouldn't bet. Though I think you can definitely get the cheap river sometimes, but that possibility gets screwed with when you get checkraised on the flop or the turn is bet-raise to you anyway.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

oink nailed it imo
take your free card
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

No way I'm betting this.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

I remember an article from Ed Miller I read yesterday : For most low/mid limit players, the limp-reraise is a giveaway for a monster (KK/AA).

Anyway I won't bet that. Just pray for a J.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

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I remember an article from Ed Miller I read yesterday : For most low/mid limit players, the limp-reraise is a giveaway for a monster (KK/AA).

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First of all, this is not true all the time, I see some limp-reraising with other hands as well.

Most importantly though, that statement is meant for those times somebody openlimps in early position, hoping for a raise after him and then reraising when it gets back to him. Here, he overlimped after two guys already limped. 99% of all the players in the world raises AA/KK in that situation. He probably just reraised for fun when it got back to him.

Finally, OP's read was that everybody were morons.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

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I remember an article from Ed Miller I read yesterday : For most low/mid limit players, the limp-reraise is a giveaway for a monster (KK/AA).


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First of all, this is not true all the time, I see some limp-reraising with other hands as well.

Most importantly though, that statement is meant for those times somebody openlimps in early position, hoping for a raise after him and then reraising when it gets back to him. Here, he overlimped after two guys already limped. 99% of all the players in the world raises AA/KK in that situation. He probably just reraised for fun when it got back to him.

Finally, OP's read was that everybody were morons.


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Thats more or less exactly what i was gonna say !!

Take the free card here everytime i cant think of one reason why you should bet here and thats rare for me coz if theres an argument to be made i'll usualy make it !! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:44 AM
Tryptamean Tryptamean is offline
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Default Re: Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

CO has some gay suited connectors here, rarely AA/KK

SB is either afraid of a monster from CO or is waiting to c/r the expected bet from CO. def take free card.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:52 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Re: Gutshot in enormo pot. Bet?

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I remember an article from Ed Miller I read yesterday : For most low/mid limit players, the limp-reraise is a giveaway for a monster (KK/AA).

Anyway I won't bet that. Just pray for a J.

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CO limped behind two and then capped when it was obvious a monster pot was brewing. That is a pure BS line, as distinct from the openlimp (in early position) and then reraise.

The reason I considered a bet is an old one: sometimes it will get the pot checked to me on the turn.

Guy.
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