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Old 10-04-2007, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

1.6 PFR% on a 15% VP$IP reg is very different from a 47% VP$IP donk.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

I don't see anyway you can get away from this hand now.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

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flop bet too large. also ask yourself how commited you want to be? do you want all 300bbs to go in?

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I can see your point but with this guy i wouldn't mind going all-in. But in this hand i think is range is quite limited, QQ,KK,AA,AK.

How much would you bet on that flop?

Anyway, after playing that way on the flop i think my best option was to shove. If i checked and he bet i'd have a really hard time folding here. If i bet i'd be commited to put the rest of my money in.



Turn: ($238) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets $304.7 (All-In)</font>, MP folds

He took a while to fold so he probably had KK or maybe AK.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

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1.6 PFR% on a 15% VP$IP reg is very different from a 47% VP$IP donk.

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This is exactly what i'm thinking. You get a lot of these types of players on Party, and very rarely does a 1.6%PFR encompass the top 1.6% of hands. I probably still going broke here.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

he never folds KK here, it is AK or JJ
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

Yes usually when their pfr is so much smaller than their VPIP they raise weird stuff.. and they try to get really tricky with their big pairs.

I'd consider a stack-a-donk line a 3 AF for someone 47 VPIP is pretty high. Obviously this is dangerous as you run the risk of giving him a free card.

I really doubt he's ever folding KK there.
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

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MP ($297.85)
Hero ($421.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A.
UTG raises to $3.5, MP raises to $12, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $41</font>, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP calls $28.50.

Flop: ($86) 7, Q, T (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $76</font>, MP calls $76.


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if you dont want to play for 300BB's this deep then bet less on the flop or check. if you pot it, you shouldnt be looking to fold anytime afterwards.
if i 4-bet AA and see a Q or K this deep, im generally trying to work the pot so i put in around 150bb's or so, fwiw
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Old 10-04-2007, 07:55 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

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flop bet too large. also ask yourself how commited you want to be? do you want all 300bbs to go in?

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I can see your point but with this guy i wouldn't mind going all-in. But in this hand i think is range is quite limited, QQ,KK,AA,AK.

How much would you bet on that flop?

Anyway, after playing that way on the flop i think my best option was to shove. If i checked and he bet i'd have a really hard time folding here. If i bet i'd be commited to put the rest of my money in.



Turn: ($238) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets $304.7 (All-In)</font>, MP folds

He took a while to fold so he probably had KK or maybe AK.

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Wow, terrible line ...
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

the flop bet is great, commits AQ/KK/JJ.

check the turn, probably just get it all in if he bets
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:39 AM
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Default Re: NL100 6max - AA with deep stacks

Against this sort of player, with preflop action the way it was, and this deep, I would make a monster preflop raise. ~$70 or so. He'll call, and then the hand is easy peasy: stack off no matter what falls.
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