Calling down with bottom boat

vanHelsing · #1 05-03-2007, 06:52 AM

SB is a thinking 30/20 LAG
Not much of a history, but I 3-bet him PF quite a time, he folded so far.
No idea if he is getting frustrated with me.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($314.15)
Hero ($418.86)
UTG ($52.90)
MP ($81.30)
Button ($65.72)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($8) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, UTG folds, MP calls $5, SB calls $5.

Turn: ($23) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, MP folds, SB raises to $46, Hero calls $32.

River: ($115) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $61, Hero calls $61.

Final Pot: $237

Weaksauce?

shpanko · #2 05-03-2007, 07:02 AM

what the hell is wrong with you? Are you a troll? Do you know how much value you just lost vs 3x?

J. Stew · #3 05-03-2007, 07:04 AM

no i think i like it. your call is so strong on the turn and he still leads, which he'll do if hes fkin around or really strong so, i like it.

shpanko · #4 05-03-2007, 07:06 AM

I agree that just calling the turn raise is ok but it should be with the intent of shoving over his river bet. He never has KK, 77 is really unlikely and a LAG might even raise 77 from the SB. The only hand you're worried about is K3 which. With only 150 BB stacks I feel like you should be getting it in here

J. Stew · #5 05-03-2007, 07:09 AM

yeah i think you're right i kind of skimmed this one :bow:

tubasteve · #6 05-03-2007, 07:18 AM

also, if hes a LAG and hes any good he's gonna bet bigger on the river to try and get max value with a boat, so he probably doesnt have one

Vavavoom · #7 05-03-2007, 07:25 AM

Please raise river....

vanHelsing · #8 05-03-2007, 07:29 AM

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Please raise river....

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How much?
I'm sure he sees me as a good player.
He is probably not calling more than a minraise with a worse hand. If I minraise and he shoves, I'll hate it...

terp · #9 05-03-2007, 07:39 AM

do you really think he completes the SB w/K3? shove the river dude. i don't think it's even a pot sized raise

vanHelsing · #10 05-03-2007, 07:47 AM

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I agree that just calling the turn raise is ok but it should be with the intent of shoving over his river bet. He never has KK, 77 is really unlikely and a LAG might even raise 77 from the SB. The only hand you're worried about is K3 which. With only 150 BB stacks I feel like you should be getting it in here

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It's an unraised pot vs a strong player who respects me.

I agree, that we are far ahead vs his range, no question!

The question is, how are we doing against the range he is calling a shove with?
Again, i don't think he is calling a shove with a random 3X in this spot.