uniproved AKo, out of posotion

[Cobretti]

I think the turn is a very easy check. There is no fold equity here in betting and the J is not scaring anyone away.

[Hamlet]

For the people recommending checking the turn--

Are you thinking check-call or check-fold? I dislike the idea of checking if we're just going to call the bet anyway. Check-fold seems a little weak with two overcards and a gutshot, although with the pair of Js and the flush draw it might be time to give it up.

I guess the key is just to flop a little better [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I agree that the river should be folded.

[werero]

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Are you thinking check-call or check-fold? I dislike the idea of checking if we're just going to call the bet anyway. Check-fold seems a little weak with two overcards and a gutshot, although with the pair of Js and the flush draw it might be time to give it up.


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check-call. Because we will get raised here a fair portion of the time and that forces us to fold or pay 2 big bets for a marginal drawinghand instead of one. We will very rarely fold out a better hand so I don't se much value in betting.

[werero]

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um c/c turn
JT

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How many outs do you expect we have on the turn on average?
Isn't the turncall somewhat close??

[yourface]

I'd estimate around 8 outs
too optimistic?

[Oink]

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I'd estimate around 8 outs
too optimistic?

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Sounds about right. I'd say mostly 7 with 4 and and 10 likely as well. Sometimes ahead and sometimes behind but with 13 outs. 7-8'ish would be my guess.