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Old 08-17-2007, 08:01 PM
hennnerz hennnerz is offline
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Default Boom! AKs - Work with me here uNL...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $28.45
Button: $28.45
SB: $30.45
BB: $5.95

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2.25, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.5</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($5.25, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, SB calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($13.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $25.45</font>, Hero feels like a girl for folding, but the call, it's just so tempting! So whats your move?

SB here runs 32/13 with a postflop AF of 2.75 however the sample is less than 50 hands.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Boom! AKs - Work with me here uNL...

he has pocket 5's but call anyway.
that's what i would do probably.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: Boom! AKs - Work with me here uNL...

I broke my mouse calling.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: Boom! AKs - Work with me here uNL...

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I broke my mouse calling.

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yeah this is my thought too even though you are beat sometimes it's just no way u can fold thsi without reads.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: Boom! AKs - Work with me here uNL...

Cheers, do you two comment on the same threads all the time? Hence the similar post count?!

I called. He won. I swore.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: Boom! AKs - Work with me here uNL...

If we're good here like 50% of the time this is a mighty profitable call. I think we are.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: Boom! AKs - Work with me here uNL...

it would be nice to know how often villain folds to cbets, but with a small sample size that's tough

so, let's try combinations.

on the flop, you are behind are 3 combos of 44, ahead of 3 combos of KQ, 3 of KJ, and 3 of KT (let's say he folds K9 and lower pf). And you're tied with 3 combos of AK.

So, looking good so far. You can weight them though, like less combos for AK (since he might 3bet PF with that) and less of KT (since he might fold those pf). So, let's say 1 combo of KT and one of AK.

On the turn, he could have floated with 77. so that's 3 more combos you're behind.

Score so far: you're ahead of (weighted) 8 combos, behind 6, and tied with 1.

On the river, could he have called down flop and turn with 55? I doubt it. But anything is possible. Let's assign 1/2 a combo for 55.

So, we end up with ahead of 8, behind 6.5, and tied with 1.

You need to be good about 40% of the time to make this a neutral EV call. So it's look okay. But some tweaking here and there might lead to different results (like, maybe he calls pf with K7 or K4, i dunno; or maybe his river push, rather than just a 2/3 pot means he has you crushed, etc).

Overall though I think you have odds to call.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:54 PM
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If we're good here like 50% of the time this is a mighty profitable call. I think we are.

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you are never beating check call check call shove with trips
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:08 PM
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If we're good here like 50% of the time this is a mighty profitable call. I think we are.

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you are never beating check call check call shove with trips

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Is it never possible that a really bad villain plays KQ this way?
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:25 PM
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Default Re: Boom! AKs - Work with me here uNL...

If you're playing for long-term results, I think you call here.
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