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Old 07-18-2007, 02:15 AM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

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so your turn bet effectively is a bluff...

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no people like to call with worse, and are kind enough to tell you when they beat you. Fortunately top top is hard to beat.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

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what do i do if i get c/r. easy pitch???

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Pretty much.

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so your turn bet effectively is a bluff...

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God no... I'm getting value out of a monkey that doesn't know how to fold a Q.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

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what do i do if i get c/r. easy pitch???

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how do you get c/r if you act first? Turn you bet for value.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

turn is money.

not a bluff at all...

fold river OP. Hes got ya beat.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

ok thanks for teh replies. guess i shoulda bet teh turn. guess i was nervous about tilting off a BI when i bet he raises and i felt tptk. i told myself b/f river so thats what i did. ive been paying these minraises off way too often.

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Old 07-18-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

Def bet more on the flop and bet turn.

Also fold to the minraise. He has one of the hands that beats you.. so calling seems kinda silly.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

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what do i do if i get c/r. easy pitch???

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Pretty much.

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so your turn bet effectively is a bluff...

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Is it even possible to get check-raised here?

Being OOP here and pf 3 bet are you ever trying to delay your c-bet from time to time, for pot control and deception and given the stack sizes.

Regards,
Carl

BTW Bet fold river is ok; you are behind here almost always.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

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what do i do if i get c/r. easy pitch???

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Pretty much.

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so your turn bet effectively is a bluff...

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Is it even possible to get check-raised here?

Being OOP here and pf 3 bet are you ever trying to delay your c-bet from time to time, for pot control and deception and given the stack sizes.

Regards,
Carl

BTW Bet fold river is ok; you are behind here almost always.

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yeah i know im first to act. for some reason when its late at night i misinterpret hands that happened earlier in the day and i remember thinking i need to check the turn because im so far ahead or so far behind to his range here. didnt want to get raised and be put in a tough spot.

i do check this flop alot against the right opponent. someone who i think is capable of making a move or understands the basic soncepts of position and cbetting. my perception was that he has no understanding of either of these, which leads to a smaller flop bet. 10$ = 17$ and also betting this flop after 3b pf
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

i dont mind the turn check.

i would bet more like 13 on the flop and as played 32 on the river though. folding to the minraise is good but i am a huge station and think anything above 2-1 pot odds are the nuts so i would prob call and get shown QJ. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Ak cbets, turns TPTK, b/f river?

i typically bet the turn and i like your flop bet.

i think that river fold is disciplined and something i usually dont do. but probably good.
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