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Old 09-01-2007, 08:04 PM
Dankenstein Dankenstein is offline
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Default Trips gone wrong

Hi I'm new to stud and am playing in a stud Hi tourney. Did I do anything wrong here ? Or did I just get unlucky ?

Tournament - 7 Card Stud High (30/60), Ante 5, Bring-In 10 (converter)

Seat 1: 1,410
Seat 2: 1,840
Seat 3: 840
Seat 4: 1,450
Seat 5: 1,890
Seat 6: 2,090
Hero: 1,470
Seat 8: 1,010

3rd Street - (1.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes___raises

4th Street - (17.33 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 5: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___double-bets___calls

5th Street - (24.67 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___raises___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___raises___raises
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls

6th Street - (40.67 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises___calls

River - (56.67 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___raises
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___bets___calls
Hero: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___raises___calls 15 (all-in)

Total pot: (71.92 BB - 4,315)
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Old 09-01-2007, 08:10 PM
PoorLawyer PoorLawyer is offline
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Default Re: Trips gone wrong

i can't think of a reason to call third, especially with a dead king. It is really an awful call given the action.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:20 PM
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lol donkaments
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Trips gone wrong

fold 3rd
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:19 PM
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Default Re: Trips gone wrong

Son of beyond the realms of the bride of turboinstafold3rd.
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:29 PM
2461Badugi 2461Badugi is offline
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Default Re: Trips gone wrong

[x] Play money donk-n-go hand.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:47 PM
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Default Re: Trips gone wrong

Thanks for all the responses. I'm very new to stud so I appreciate any help. In response to 2461badugi no it wasn't play money; however, considering it was only a 5.50 tourney on FTP it was pretty close. I almost felt like I was playing bingo. Perhaps this is because I am so inexperienced at stu, but I felt like a lot of people felt that as soon as they were in a pot they had to keep calling to the river. I guess the 3 bet on third was a strong indicator that a pair of dueces wasn't good.My thinking on calling was that I thought well it was only so much to call and if I spike a duece on 4th I'm great if not I'm out. I now realize this mindset is incorrect. I'm probably giving away bets this way and if I do spike the 3rd deuce like I did it is probable that it won't hold until the river.
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Old 09-02-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Trips gone wrong

Your assesment of ppl calling to the river is correct. Once a couple of raises go in a hand low level tournaments hands become hang on for dear life scenarios. any set will hold up a fair amount in a 4 way or less hand in stud. The problem with lower sets is the reversed implied odds situation. It is the same reason why calling down with lower pair against big pair is very risky. You lose when you dont hit and you lose more when you both hit.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:16 PM
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Thanks chucky. I think this turned into a lose more when you both hit situation and ultimately crippled me in the tourney (not that I was really expecting to get much out of that tourney other than experience).
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:36 PM
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No problem. 3 flush and 3 straight hands are really good to play in massive multi-way pots.
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