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Old 01-19-2007, 01:29 PM
rigoletto rigoletto is offline
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3-bet the flop, take the free turn card, call any none club river and avoid all this pondering! We are looking at an A or a flushdraw often but some of the time a TAG will realize your move on the limper and c/r any hand on an A high board. By just calling we have taken the worst road by creating odds to convince us to call the river.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:34 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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I just don't get why we would take the free turn card in that spot, although it would look very much like a flush draw which could induce river bluffs on blanks and river checks with aces when a club falls. So maybe it's awesome.
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:02 PM
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I think it is more questionable to call the river than to check the turn. If villain calls the flop 3-bet, then I think we are behind more often than we are ahead, so I go for the free card. Calling the river bet is very read based, but in any event this line is cheaper than call/call/call and we can get a raise in if we hit on the river.
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