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Old 11-13-2007, 01:30 AM
GaZaZaZa GaZaZaZa is offline
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Default Re: Getting past the rake stakes.

have you ever considered rake back... its quite helpful to counterbalance it at those stakes.. also try sites with decent deposit bonuses... but yes if your a winning player, why not try a small shot at 1/2 2/4
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:41 AM
SteveL91 SteveL91 is offline
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Default Re: Getting past the rake stakes.

Unless you have absolutely no choice in the matter, waiting until you have 50 buy-ins is (IMO) excessive below 1/2 or so. While I don't really feel comfortable playing 1/2 without 40+ buy-ins, I'm fine with 25-30 at .5/1.00.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Getting past the rake stakes.

You should be able to beat 50plo for more than the best players beat 2kplo for, even with the rake, before you move up. Otherwise you still have a lot of leaks.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: Getting past the rake stakes.

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You should be able to beat 50plo for more than the best players beat 2kplo for, even with the rake, before you move up. Otherwise you still have a lot of leaks.

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Old 11-13-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: Getting past the rake stakes.

I moved up from PLO 50 pretty quickly, but I probably ran better than my expectation at that level. It really was easy to win at that level and if you cannot beat the rake there you have some big leaks, like roundtower said.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:22 AM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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Default Re: Getting past the rake stakes.

Agreed. I averaged over 11 PTBB/100 there despite giving away about half of my winnings in rake. My advice at those limits is to either bet the pot or raise the pot as much as possible when it's your turn to act. (At least if you're on Stars or FT.) At 10 BB/100, it should take you 25K hands (not 200K hands) to make 50 BI.

To be fair though, 0.5/1 is the level where I have the highest winrate, so the rake difference might be bigger than the skill difference in that small jump. Just about every limit you move up after that though, it will be harder to win at the higher level than it was at the one previous.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: Getting past the rake stakes.

its not a matter of beating the rake - i know i can do that(its just not 10ptbb/100), and btw i have rakeback. when u say that u have a leaky game if u cant hit a huge winrate, it seems that when i am playing a session there are very few hands where i actually question my play. i know i extract max value for my hands and read my opponents well. most my negative sessions are from simply losing alot of races. im really not questioning my game here, i think i just need to play more hands. should i just post every hand where i go broke(excluding some) to find my leaks? or is this more of a pokerEV thing?
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