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Old 10-29-2007, 04:49 AM
finalboarder finalboarder is offline
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Default 25NL FD+SD against a shortie

How do you guys play this? Should I have checked behind on the river to avoid a checkraise?

Villian is playing 41.2/2.9/1.8 over 30 hands

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (6 handed) Ultimate Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($73.47)
CO ($28.82)
Button ($24.21)
SB ($9.15)
BB ($19.73)
Hero ($50.92)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60.

Flop: ($2.55) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25.

Turn: ($3.30) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $4</font>, SB folds, Hero...?
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:02 AM
Schiester Schiester is offline
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Default Re: 25NL FD+SD against a shortie

SB has 4ish left behind him. He's almost definately ahead at this stage and is pot committed.

You're not going to get any value from disguising your draw with a big raise and you're certain to get called (FE=0).

You've got around 25% equity if he's got 2pair or better (i.e. worst case scenario) and you need to make up 17.6% of the pot.

I'm calling here and shutting down if I don't hit one of my 11 outs.
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:09 AM
Usual Usual is offline
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Default Re: 25NL FD+SD against a shortie

What about the semi-bluff? I think it was OK. Anyone disagree?

As played, easy call.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:35 AM
Knightsridge Knightsridge is offline
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Default Re: 25NL FD+SD against a shortie

Would anyone advocate making it $1.5 on the flop?

Check turn with no spade giving free river with position if a spade comes.

Just a thought.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:41 AM
wems wems is offline
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Default Re: 25NL FD+SD against a shortie

yea I would raise this flop bet. I HATE it when people call a raise preflop and donk the flop for 25cents..., as played call turn and hope you hit...
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:49 AM
kroeliewoelie kroeliewoelie is offline
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Default Re: 25NL FD+SD against a shortie

SB doesn't show strength, BB looks like the typical mindonker. I ignore his flopbet and just cbet: we have probably some folding equity because they don't show any strength.

If called we have still 9 outs. But the main advantage is that we probably can take a free card on the turn, because we discourage donking there. This is because of 2 reasons:
1) Either our opponents have a marginal holding and don't have the guts to bet into us on the turn.
2) They have a monster. The types that c/c the flop, usually c/r the turn, but that won't happen since we check behind.

Summary: bet your nutflush draw on the flop.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:57 AM
Bavid Denyamine Bavid Denyamine is offline
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Default Re: 25NL FD+SD against a shortie

raise flop and call a short shove, as played spite shove the turn, i think your equity could be higher than you think
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