"Dropping " chips into the pot

[psandman]

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we might be thinking of different things. i don't mean the soft rim ringing the table for people to rest their arms on; i am referring to a colored line in the felt that is typically 6-8" inside and is demarcated as being official and irreversible for distinguishing bets placed.

at some casinos where i've played, they don't tolerate the showy, game-slowing behavior of angle-shooting attenion-seekers who like to carry 1/2 their entire stack across the line and slowly assemble their chips while guaging reactions before finally placing a bet. and at others, the line exists and isn't enforced - this is a shame.

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So you think that carrying your chips right up to the line and slowly assembling them while gauging reactions before pushing them over the line is somehow better?

[wyndam]

ya a string bet would be if they dropped 5 red chips brought there hand back to htere chip stack & then dropped another 5 chips over the line, i wouldnt really consider what they were doing a string bet, in fact thats the way i usually make a bet! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[snuffdip]

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Side note: When I bet, I clearly announce "Bet" or "Raise" cut out my chips in front of me, announce exactly how much, "fifty more" or "Fifty straight" (Usually the latter, since I like telling them exactly how much I am putting in, not how much more I am raising) and push my chips out. Why is this so difficult for others?

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As a dealer, I ask myself this question every day. Verbalizing bets makes my job easier and makes the game move along so much quicker. It's the first thing I teach new players when they sit down for their first time at a live game.

It is amazing that people that have been playing the game for years still have to "plop" chips as they count them.

[PantsOnFire]

Here are my comments:

1. I think that chips in your hand are irrelevent. The chips that count are the chips that leave your hand.

2. If you verbally state "call", then you can fumble and mumble any way you want until you have the correct amount for a call. This would also apply to stating "raise to x".

3. If you verbally state "raise", then you can grab a handfull of chips, and start dropping them one at a time over the line. When you pull your hand back whether it has chips in it or not, you are done.

4. If you grab a bunch of chips and stack and count them over the bet line, I would rule that all those chips that are out of your hand and on the felt over the bet line are your action. You can't go back and grab a chip and return it to your stack. (Again this is for non-verbalized actions).

So I would say Ways #1 and #2 are fine. With no verbal declarations, the only exception would be adjusting the amount. If you accidentally put in less than a call, you would be required to put more in to match the call. If you put a little more in than a call, you would be required to perform a min-raise and put in two calls.

I think most casinos would have a problem with Way #3. I haven't seen many instances where a player can put chips over a bet line and then take some back (in a non-verbalized action that is). This would be the opposite of a string raise. You plop a grand over the bet line, look at your opponent and then take $900 back. That doesn't seem right to me.

Personally, I think it is a bad way of betting because you may accidentally drop more chips than you intended and like I have said, in non-verbal actions, I do believe these chips play.