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Old 11-12-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

yeah shove, this is a pretty transparent blocking bet, or hes just an evil genius
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

I guess im the only one who [censored] himself when a bad player goes call\call\donk.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:04 AM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

If he's bad he probably won't block bet, just value bet. Villain's line makes sense if he has a boat (could slow-play on a drawy board, letting an aggresssive player hang himself)

I vote calling. Most villains aren't very likely to go broke with just a J or a good ace here. It also gains value from a lot of other misplayed hands.

It's rather weak but I think that raising this river is not that profitable overall, especially if the table has been passive...
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

well hello KJ, I'dd make a smallish raise here, shove isnt to bad either.
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

call? wtf? ez shove
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Old 11-13-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

I put him on KQ, so I shove, he snapcalls with JT and I scream something.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:00 AM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

There's pretty much a 0% chance he has KQ. His WTSD was pretty low for the type of player he was, i think around 23, and i think he'd check call an A on the river, as he'd been playing pretty passively up to this point and folding himself out of a lot of pots. There might have been some timing tells too, but i'm pretty certain he has at least a J.
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

Yeah but if he has a J then his line makes sense for it to be a non-boat jack, like a retarded blocker bet.

I think shove here is deffo the right thing to do. They dont 1/2 pot the river with the nuts...
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Old 11-13-2007, 07:51 AM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

Guess it depends on your image then... do you think he would fold KJ/QJ to you?
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: River card comes and the donk donks into me

Could also easily be an Ace looking for cheap showdown.
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