AK facing river aggression

lacrymosa · #1 01-22-2007, 09:39 AM

This guy was 28/9 over about 150 hands. He hadn't stepped out of line. I put him on a flush draw, hence betting the turn, but the river confused me. What is Hero's move? (100BB effective)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.6, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.4, BB calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.4, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12.4, 2 players)
BB bets $13, Hero ??

munkey · #2 01-22-2007, 09:47 AM

At the very least I think I'm calling this for sure.

Depends if villan likes to slowplay[e.g. a set] to the river, if so then I may be less inclined to shove the river as Kx is likely to pay you off,a bluffing busted draw will fold and any FH obviously call you.

Since the river looks like either the K helped him or he's bluffing a missed draw I'll prob just shove.

tannenj · #3 01-22-2007, 09:48 AM

shove. his most likely hands are a worse king and missed clubs.

a set should raise the flop and especially the turn, the board is extremely draw heavy.

eigenvalue · #4 01-22-2007, 10:28 AM

Stupid!

Make a save call! If you shove, only boats or the possble straight will call you. So don't make that common mistake.

eigenvalue · #5 01-22-2007, 10:29 AM

Avoid this mistake here and call!

tannenj · #6 01-22-2007, 10:30 AM

a king will call 100% of the time.

a boat is very unlikely, and if the villain has it he misplayed his hand.

a straight will raise the turn pretty often.

lacrymosa · #7 01-22-2007, 10:36 AM

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Stupid!

Make a save call! If you shove, only boats or the possble straight will call you. So don't make that common mistake.

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What I didn't understand about this hand was that a boat would have presumably flopped a set and raised on this very drawy board. A straight would have raised the turn. I didn't think a busted flush would do this (which I put him on), and that only left a weaker K. So I just wanted to know if it was more EV to push or call, taking into account all the times he has a straight/boat/trips.

Genz · #8 01-22-2007, 11:33 AM

raise more preflop.
I'm a little biased because last time I was in this situation, villain would show me a freak fh (equivalent to K2o here). So I'm a nit.
My problem is this: if you put him on a busted flush, he won't call your push so you don't make any extra money. Only a boat or a K will call here. Maybe AA as well. You only want calls by AA and K with worse kickers that don't match the board. There are a lot of hand with a K that villain might play like KQ, KJ, KT. But still i think it's close and I only call.