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Old 07-25-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default 200NL: KK facing a big turn bet

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The SB is an unknown and hasn't been very active.
He is 29/6/2.13 over 150 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($214.25)
SB ($189.45)
Hero ($217)

UTG ($207.80)
UTG+1 ($101.25)
MP1 ($195)
MP2 ($243)
CO ($105.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB calls $6.

Flop: ($16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $25</font>, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($66) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $63</font>, Hero?

Pot Control?
If I call, the Pot will be $189 and he'll have $90 left. Since I'm playing for stacks, it's either call or push - right?

The flop was pretty drawless. Let's say his likely hands are:
- Qx (I'm way ahead)
- Q7 / Q3 (I'm slightly behind)
- 77 / 33 (I'm way behind)
- Bluff (I'm ahead unless it's some weird hand like 64 or 75)

Thoughts?
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:26 PM
GrandMelon GrandMelon is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KK facing a big turn bet

Definitely stack off here since its blind vs blind. He'll show up with Qx/bluffs more often than a set/weird 2 pair hand.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:45 PM
Makonnen Makonnen is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KK facing a big turn bet

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Q7 / Q3 (I'm slightly behind)

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How do you get slightly behind here?

It's a weird spot. I think he might have lucked into 2 pair, but his aggression rating is high enough that I stack off.
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:20 PM
11beatsperminute 11beatsperminute is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KK facing a big turn bet

In my opinion the preflop action is important. Is he the type of player who would limp-coldcall 33 or 77 first in from the SB (i donīt think he would with Q7 or Q3 btw)? Wouldnīt he raise it? Or maybe heīs trapping you with Aces, but that would be too weird here.
But I agree with GrandMelon, canīt fold KK in this spot.
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KK facing a big turn bet

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Q7 / Q3 (I'm slightly behind)

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How do you get slightly behind here?

It's a weird spot. I think he might have lucked into 2 pair, but his aggression rating is high enough that I stack off.

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You're right that it's not slightly.

If he has a set, I have 2 outs (19-1 dog). If he has 2 pair, I have 8 outs (still a 4.5-1 dog).
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: KK facing a big turn bet

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Q7 / Q3 (I'm slightly behind)

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How do you get slightly behind here?

It's a weird spot. I think he might have lucked into 2 pair, but his aggression rating is high enough that I stack off.

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he is slighty behind Q3 on the flop because any K, 7, running pair will give him a better hand.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:50 AM
Mr_Donktastic Mr_Donktastic is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KK facing a big turn bet

I get it in here and am happy about it.
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:59 AM
Makonnen Makonnen is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KK facing a big turn bet

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he is slighty behind Q3 on the flop because any K, 7, running pair will give him a better hand.

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Except we're already at the turn ...
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: 200NL: KK facing a big turn bet

I push here, expecting to see Qx quite often. Two pair is likely, a set probably wouldn't play this fast. Since you have outs against two pair, just shove it.
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