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Old 07-24-2007, 02:11 AM
luckybacon luckybacon is offline
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Default Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

Villian is solid reg runs 24/20ish or so i think. It was only over like 300 hands. Hes been playing pretty agressive having position on me. Thoughts on turn? Also noticed my turn bet size is small reviewing the hand, thats def a mistake [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I dont know how he views me to be honest. Probably 24/20ish also. I dont remember any important history

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($200)
Button ($223)
SB ($340.55)
BB ($81.50)
UTG ($81.40)
MP ($331.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, Button calls $14.

Turn: ($47) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $99.95</font>, Hero
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

muck
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

Call all day..
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

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Call all day..

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by call im guessing u mean push? what range do u put him on
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

If you call his raise, he still has $78 more to bet. It will go in if he's ahead. He might check behind on the river if he's behind.

If he's ahead with a flush or KJ - you are drawing dead.

If he's behind, but semi-bluffing with either:
- a heart [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 outs)
- two pair (4 outs)
- a set (10 outs)

Because you are 0% when behind and only 70% when ahead, your pot equity is small.

I'd fold.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

I'd just go all in. Can't see folding here. Your hand is super disguised, I'd think a baby flush raises the flop (usually), and there are tons of set/2pair/pair+nfd hands out there that could take this line.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

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I'd just go all in. Can't see folding here. Your hand is super disguised, I'd think a baby flush raises the flop (usually), and there are tons of set/2pair/pair+nfd hands out there that could take this line.

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Even though he has postion on me, i just cant see him flat calling with a set on this flop ever.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

So, you're thinking his range is basically {flush}?
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

no i could see him semi bluffing here, i just find it hard to believe he would flat call a set here. I could be wrong though. The one hand i didnt think he had was a set
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: Stars NL 200 tough turn decision

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Call all day..

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by call im guessing u mean push? what range do u put him on

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oh yes I thought he pushed.. well, good players fast play their hands, so I'd think he'd raise the flop, especially since it's Ace high.. not sure on the history between you two, but you did mention he was pretty aggressive.. baby flushes raise the flop for sure (I think), so you're only worried about some big flush hand slow playing.. this is a semi-bluff a lot or 2-pair a lot.. His calling range Pre-flop, I'd think he'd 3-bet your co-raise with KhJh given stats.. I'd just put it in.
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