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12-01-2007, 12:34 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
I dont see much to discuss here, the pope is an idiot.
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12-01-2007, 01:53 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] We assume it will be in the afterlife, where God is in direct control and man has no say anymore. But on earth, man has the free will to do what he wants within the confines of nature. To judge God on earth is foolishly premature. [/ QUOTE ] This from the guy who thinks most people are going to hell... Uh, "within the confines of nature." Didn't God set up those confines? So why do "the confines of nature" actually result in incredible suffering (nature probably causes more suffering than man, or has historically)? Further, why do the confines of nature allow man great latitude in spreading awful pain, but limit his power to alleviate suffering? You want to talk about man's sinful nature, but the dice are loaded. [/ QUOTE ] Nature causes both pain and pleasure. I don't see how it is easier for man to spread awful pain than to alleviate the suffering he causes. If an atheist is convinced that life on the whole is much more painful than pleasurable, I don't see why he would not commit suicide. It would be the reasonable thing to do. It's this lack of conviction amongst atheists that fails to persuade most of humanity to their side.
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12-01-2007, 07:43 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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Uh, "within the confines of nature." Didn't God set up those confines? So why do "the confines of nature" actually result in incredible suffering (nature probably causes more suffering than man, or has historically)? Further, why do the confines of nature allow man great latitude in spreading awful pain, but limit his power to alleviate suffering? [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand this attitude that living things are somehow entitled to be free of suffering. That an injustince was done in that we were created incomplete. I have never felt incomplete. Stu
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12-01-2007, 12:42 PM
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We assume it will be in the afterlife, where God is in direct control and man has no say anymore. But on earth, man has the free will to do what he wants within the confines of nature. To judge God on earth is foolishly premature. [/ QUOTE ] Re: The "neo-atheist" thread... Maybe it is time we stop "debating" this fantasyland nonsense and merely laugh that a 21st century human being from the most technologically advanced culture on the planet actually believes stuff like this. Or maybe we should cry, not sure which yet.
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12-01-2007, 01:55 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] We assume it will be in the afterlife, where God is in direct control and man has no say anymore. But on earth, man has the free will to do what he wants within the confines of nature. To judge God on earth is foolishly premature. [/ QUOTE ] Re: The "neo-atheist" thread... Maybe it is time we stop "debating" this fantasyland nonsense and merely laugh that a 21st century human being from the most technologically advanced culture on the planet actually believes stuff like this. Or maybe we should cry, not sure which yet. [/ QUOTE ] Technology does not make one happy.
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12-01-2007, 12:44 AM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
Karl Marx was a great thinker and economist. While I don't fully agree with him, and especially don't agree with many of his current followers, I think blaming him for what Stalin did is just wrong.
People in the US and UK have been greatly brainwashed about Marx's ideas. I wonder how many of the people that think like you have actually read Marx's work.
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12-01-2007, 01:32 AM
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Bible condoning slavery [/ QUOTE ] Actually, The Bible not only condones but encourages everything you said and more. Murdering foreigners or unbelievers, stealing from them (goods, virgin girls, slaves), pillaging their cities, gang banging their gives wives; genocide, beating slaves; death toll for: adulterers, unmarried daughters that have had sex, and those who work on the sabbath, etc, etc....
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12-01-2007, 12:37 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] Bible condoning slavery [/ QUOTE ] Actually, The Bible not only condones but encourages everything you said and more. Murdering foreigners or unbelievers, stealing from them (goods, virgin girls, slaves), pillaging their cities, gang banging their gives wives; genocide, beating slaves; death toll for: adulterers, unmarried daughters that have had sex, and those who work on the sabbath, etc, etc.... [/ QUOTE ] ure supposed to pretend the brutal part of the bibles dont exist( or u can come up with "u have to understand the context in which was wriiten" bs )and only point out the good part of the bibles, then after u do that u say that if we all followed the bible the world would be a better place
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