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Old 10-01-2007, 09:23 AM
Gary Stevenson Gary Stevenson is offline
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Default PS 10-20 QQ 3bet oop

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $3,332.00
BB: $3,718.00
UTG: $1,063.00
CO: $905.00
BTN: $3,219.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $60.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $220.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $160.00

Flop: ($460) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $320.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $900.00</font>, Hero ?

btn is 20 buck spin if u've played with him. he was the biggest winner in the recent screen shot of stars 5-10 and 10-20 games i think. i have him running at 28/25 over a decent sample however some of that is 3handed. i haven't seen him really get out of line much in our sessions together...thoughts on all options?
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: PS 10-20 QQ 3bet oop

I like a fold because with your depth I can see him calling here with all pockets. In a blind steal situation he can't expect you to release too many hands, so this looks like a value raise he's trying to disguise as a 'who ever raises a dry board for value' style raise.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: PS 10-20 QQ 3bet oop

Meh, he's 28/25, I would really hate folding here. Prolly call and c/r all in on a safe turn.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:52 AM
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Meh, he's 28/25, I would really hate folding here. Prolly call and c/r all in on a safe turn.

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28/25 with a lot of 3 handed play making up those stats. details matter.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:55 AM
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bleh, i actually just checked pt and it's not that much 3handed. filtered it for 5/6 handed and he's 26/23
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:58 AM
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This hand seems super standard to me...what am I missing? Depending on your history with him bet--&gt;3bet flop or call then checkshove turn?
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:03 AM
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bleh, i actually just checked pt and it's not that much 3handed. filtered it for 5/6 handed and he's 26/23

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this is exactly what I assumed when I stated that. But this is a really sick decision really. But the fact that he's tricky (I'm assuming since you said he's big winner in those games.) Maybe wrong, but I still think a fold is a little too weak here. He could c/r you with any air. His range is prolly not polarized to overpairs, or JJ, and hence I think you basically have to go broke here.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:03 AM
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just don't fold
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:04 AM
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against this player. call and c/r turn AI
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:05 AM
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This is pretty effing tough and to give an accurate answer you have to have played with this opp a fair bit. Default I wouldn't fold but hate it. I think calling is better than shoving but that's close as well. He probably plays pretty perfectly against your specific hand no matter what you do so I guess that means you should shove.
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