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#1
11-05-2007, 09:26 AM
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NL200 - Low end straight draw
This is somewhat non-standard play for me and I find it quite tough playing that kind of draws. So what do you think of this hand? No reads yet. I don't usually donkbet but the opponent doesn't know that yet (unless he has observed me, ofc). So basically I want to semibluff but I don't want to check/raise because it's so costly and my draw is not that good.
Would someone fold preflop? 98o is borderline for me here against unknown. Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $1/$2 2 players Converter Stack sizes: SB: $208 Hero: $191.50 Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls. Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, SB calls. Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($32, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $175.5... 
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#2
11-05-2007, 09:44 AM
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Re: NL200 - Low end straight draw
I would make a c/c on the flop here, because your draw is not strong enough to c/r plus this flop hits a lot of hands, which makes a c/r too risky. Donkbet is a good play here, because a thinking player won't raise you on that flop if he missed it. But this flop hits a lot of hands and he won't slowplay them on that board, he will raise and push you off a draw, so I prefer a c/c here. No way I am getting away from this hand once I make my hand.
I wouldn't even consider folding preflop.
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#4
11-05-2007, 03:51 PM
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Re: NL200 - Low end straight draw
you're right that pf is marginal. 98o is at the very bottom of what's playable IMO; I'm not convinced that it's profitable.
it's good that you're thinking in terms of checkraising flops. However, I think 2nd alternative should be check/call, not donk.
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#5
11-05-2007, 05:14 PM
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Re: NL200 - Low end straight draw
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you're right that pf is marginal. 98o is at the very bottom of what's playable IMO; I'm not convinced that it's profitable. it's good that you're thinking in terms of checkraising flops. However, I think 2nd alternative should be check/call, not donk. [/ QUOTE ] Care to explain why sir?
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#6
11-05-2007, 07:32 PM
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Re: NL200 - Low end straight draw
I think it's played fine as long as you donk with some frequency later on if he catches you doing this with draws here. Turn is obviously standard.
And 98o preflop is incredibly standard call for me.
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#7
11-05-2007, 07:58 PM
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Re: NL200 - Low end straight draw
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] you're right that pf is marginal. 98o is at the very bottom of what's playable IMO; I'm not convinced that it's profitable. it's good that you're thinking in terms of checkraising flops. However, I think 2nd alternative should be check/call, not donk. [/ QUOTE ] Care to explain why sir? [/ QUOTE ] When you donk, unless you donk a ton, the first thing your opponent is likely to think is that you're drawing. And this is soooo obviously a drawing board. Plus, even if he takes it as a possible made hand, the donk is unlikely to get a fold -- a suited JT5 flop hits or gives draws to many many hands. In my experience, people peel flops in position vs. donkbets with ace high, two overs, any hand bottom pair or better, and any straight draw including gutterballs. By that standard, if opponent is raising 60% of his hands, then he's got a "peel flop" hand about 75% of the time. If you want to pressure him, the checkraise puts a lot more heat on and gets rid of most of the junk in his range.
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