77 in EP

[el_grande]

2/2 NL B&M Casino

Button is standard, seems solid.

Hero has $85, button covers (has about $200)

Hero has 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in UTG+1.

Preflop:

Hero minraises to 4
2 callers
Button re-raises to 16
Hero calls
Everyone else folds

After rake, pot is $39

Flop: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets $20, button raises all-in. Covers hero who has $45 behind.

Hero?

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I don't know what casino this is, but usually at these stakes "seem[img] solid" is not standard. Rebuying preflop should be. Maybe this a 50 bb buyin game or something though.

I usually open limp hands like this and fold to the preflop reraise as played. Also fold to the flop raise as played - live players do not usually know Dan Bright theorem (AK is the nuts). So I think he has something that beats AK, and most of the hands in his range that beat AK also beat 77. Dump it, and don't donkbet either. You'll probably get better advice in the full ring forum.

[CappyAA]

Ugh, I hate this play big time. You should be playing with a full stack here. Also, you dont have odds to call this raise for set value.

After the call however, I hate betting out. I would think check/fold is the best play on the flop, although I wouldn't mind a check/raise all in too much to get a bet from AK/AQ overcard type hands. Bet/call or bet/fold both suck.

[JackAll]

If you call this pf with no set odds, then this is a perfect flop for you to c/r with a short stack. Leading flop is awful.

[Kala1928]

UTG minraise with your stack is bad unless you just shove over the top if someone squuezes/reraises. Just limp/call or limp/shove.

I assume your plan was to bet/call on the flop. If it wasn't, why did you bet? If it was, why havent you called yet?

[Zagga]

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Hero has $85

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Preflop:

Hero minraises to 4


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bah

[el_grande]

A few points...

Buyin is $100
I limp with 77 in this spot 90% of the time
I bet out on the flop with the intention of folding if raised all-in.

If we put villain on TT+,AdKd then:

Board: 5s 2d 8d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 87.797% 87.80% 00.00% 26945 0.00 { TT+, AdKd }
Hand 1: 12.203% 12.20% 00.00% 3745 0.00 { 7c7h }

Is a fold correct here?

[JackAll]

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A few points...

Buyin is $100


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So what - it has to do with BB's not buy-in size.
40bb or less is technically consdered short and you have about 40bb - you are short stacking.


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I limp with 77 in this spot 90% of the time

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Limping might be ok, but calling a raise without good odds to hit a set means you need to earn some other way to make up the EV.

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I bet out on the flop with the intention of folding if raised all-in.

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I hate this line because :
1. You lose c-bets from worse hands likke missed overs
2. You have no fold equity vs better hands like 86/76/89/8T which often fold if you c/r. You might even make 99/TT or even JJ fold occasionally if they are bad enough (and most live players are).
3. you lose more money to made hands because c/f or c/r is better for above reasons.
4. the bet/fold line is too obvious on the flop and I would put you in here if I had AK/AQ to push you off your hand.

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If we put villain on TT+,AdKd then:

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Lol, if someone min-rz's to 2bb, I treat this as a check and so i consider buttons raise to be a normal raise, not a re-raise. So his range could be AT+/KJ+/99+

On top of that, he is button so his range is probably way wider ... maybe sc's and more pp's and more big broadways

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Is a fold correct here?

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Hell no - with 40bb, we are ahead of a damn lot of hands and I would c/r the flop all-in.

If you aren't prepared to do that on such a favourable flop, you should definitely fold pre-flop when you dont have odds to hit a set like in this hand.


btw - your pf min rz is disgusting for so many reason that I can't be bothered typing them up again.