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Old 10-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Apanage Apanage is offline
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Looks perfect to me. I like the river bet, he might call with 88-JJ. There aren't many hands that beat you that he wouldn't bet river with. When he checks river the only hand that he could have that you don't beat is KJs. Easy valuebet on river.

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This can just be a valuebet against the poorest online players.
What decent player calls river with 88-JJ getting 7.25:1.
What can he ever put you on that he thinks that he beat.Maybe 88-99.
If you get called here by a TAG you´re losing 90% of the time.
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:28 PM
acehole60 acehole60 is offline
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Default Re: Check behind turn?

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This can just be a valuebet against the poorest online players.
What decent player calls river with 88-JJ getting 7.25:1.
What can he ever put you on that he thinks that he beat.Maybe 88-99.
If you get called here by a TAG you´re losing 90% of the time.

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Naaah, I think you'll get looked up by alot of 88-JJ. I think it's close but against your average villain I believe there's some value in betting.
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Old 10-26-2007, 06:48 PM
Apanage Apanage is offline
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Default Re: Check behind turn?

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This can just be a valuebet against the poorest online players.
What decent player calls river with 88-JJ getting 7.25:1.
What can he ever put you on that he thinks that he beat.Maybe 88-99.
If you get called here by a TAG you´re losing 90% of the time.

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Naaah, I think you'll get looked up by alot of 88-JJ. I think it's close but against your average villain I believe there's some value in betting.

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You still need to get called by a worse hand more than 50% of the times.And I seriously doubt that anyone with a brain would check/call 88 or 99 on this board.If I were villain and had a high Ax hand I would go for a checkraise like always.If I had a low Ax hand I would check/call.Value betting thin is a dangerous habit against most better players and very exploitable.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:51 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: Check behind turn?

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This can just be a valuebet against the poorest online players.
What decent player calls river with 88-JJ getting 7.25:1.
What can he ever put you on that he thinks that he beat.Maybe 88-99.
If you get called here by a TAG you´re losing 90% of the time.

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Naaah, I think you'll get looked up by alot of 88-JJ. I think it's close but against your average villain I believe there's some value in betting.

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You still need to get called by a worse hand more than 50% of the times.And I seriously doubt that anyone with a brain would check/call 88 or 99 on this board.If I were villain and had a high Ax hand I would go for a checkraise like always.If I had a low Ax hand I would check/call.Value betting thin is a dangerous habit against most better players and very exploitable.

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We don't have to get called 50%, we only have to be good 50% when he calls. Looking at villains range he should have 88-JJ much more often than a hand that beats us. Often he'll fold to our bet, but when he calls we're good more than 50% for sure.

Also we have no indication that villain is one of the better players. Since he plays 3/6 at a nitty site that use the dealt method for calculating rakeback I'll asume he's playing a pretty straighforward game until proof of anything else.
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