Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Tournament Poker > STT Strategy

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-19-2007, 07:43 PM
vers vers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kingston/Toronto
Posts: 1,793
Default $16 AA early levels control

Holla. I usually don't play aces like this... Checking back flop to keep the pot small vs 2 players (readless). Sippin was at my table and was probably wondering wtf hand I had lol. BTW I'd play AK here the same way.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1480)
MP1 (t1600)
MP2 (t1340)
CO (t120)
Button (t1620)
SB (t1480)
BB (t4360)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t70, BB calls t60

Flop: (t240) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t240) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t20</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t100</font>, Hero calls t100, SB calls t80

River: (t540) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets t120</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="red">SB raises to t500</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-19-2007, 08:00 PM
palman palman is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 497
Default Re: $16 AA early levels control

Seems fine to me. Some may say fold the turn, and they're probably right, but I'm not gona fault ya for calling just because someone raised a donk bet. If it's a mistake it's not a huge one. You're gona have to play some poker on the river though with this line. Odds are your opponnent either makes a small value bet or a small blocking bet on the river because you are either on AQ or JJ,10's, so calling the turn can't put you in that much trouble, since the guy will make this turn play with any medium pair.

Congrats to the SB for making his flush.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-19-2007, 08:02 PM
hoyasnaxa hoyasnaxa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NoVA
Posts: 2,054
Default Re: $16 AA early levels control

I dont like the flop check, I would raise. It just makes it a lot easier to fold if you have to.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-19-2007, 08:02 PM
pipS pipS is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 58
Default Re: $16 AA early levels control

180 flop.. if call check fold turn
in river call 1/2 pot max
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-19-2007, 08:09 PM
_Towelie_ _Towelie_ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Freddy Beach, Canada
Posts: 422
Default Re: $16 AA early levels control

PF I make it T100, maybe even a little more utg, but whatever. Potting the flop would have probably made the hand easier to play on later streets.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-19-2007, 08:33 PM
Q.. Q.. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 331
Default Re: $16 AA early levels control

wow thats interesting, keep the pot small with AA and QQ5 rainbow flop?

180 flop
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-19-2007, 08:35 PM
TimWakefield TimWakefield is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 89
Default Re: $16 AA early levels control

Seems fine to me, if you hate money. Please bet the flop. Please raise the turn if you misclick-check the flop.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-19-2007, 08:36 PM
vers vers is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kingston/Toronto
Posts: 1,793
Default Re: $16 AA early levels control

I had a sixth sense that they had a Q... I think I picked up a timing tell. I kinda played a little too aggro last night and I think I compensated instinctively in the first bit of todays session. I think flop bet is better tho thinking about it now. Is it a problem to try and play small pots early bc this isn't really the ideal flop for AA obv. Plus little fear of free cards if I am ahead, played it WA/WB...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-19-2007, 08:48 PM
TimWakefield TimWakefield is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 89
Default Re: $16 AA early levels control

[ QUOTE ]
I had a sixth sense that they had a Q... I think I picked up a timing tell. I kinda played a little too aggro last night and I think I compensated instinctively in the first bit of todays session. I think flop bet is better tho thinking about it now. Is it a problem to try and play small pots early bc this isn't really the ideal flop for AA obv. Plus little fear of free cards if I am ahead, played it WA/WB...

[/ QUOTE ]

Picking up on a timing tell is one thing, just assuming that your opponents have outflopped you is another [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

We bet the flop not because we want to define our hand and be able to get away from it, but to get value out of it. Obviously we're not going broke every time here on the flop or turn, but we're way of villain's line here most of time on those streets, and just as we don't want to give him credit for a queen, he doesn't want to give us credit for one either (he'll pay us off with 2 pair).
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-19-2007, 08:58 PM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Stoxpoker Coach
Posts: 1,282
Default Re: $16 AA early levels control

I dont like this flop check at all. You can check for pot control on the turn if you get called since you are in position, but not betting this flop is burning money or letting people draw for free alot of the time.

Question - Are there any hands you are cbetting here? If the answer is yes, then I think its a big mistake to not cbet AA
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.