Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Micro Stakes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-27-2007, 09:59 AM
Baintz Baintz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Chester, UK
Posts: 315
Default NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

Villain was running 25/15/1.5 over 60 hands, I'm about 18/14/2 over same period.
He seems to be playing pretty solid, but no valuable showdown information as yet.

I've 3bet his UTG opens three times in a row prior to this with strong hands and he folded each time.
He instaclled this time, so I got the feeling he's ready to play back at me.

Given this read, I wanted to crai on turn, but the board just got real ugly. So, bet out or c/r and hope to snap off a bluff? There's obviously a pretty good chance I'm beat here, and he may check back a hand like AJ, so was unsure of the best line.


Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $8.50
SB: $15.35
Hero (BB): $56.75
UTG: $64.05
CO: $20.25

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, UTG calls $5

Flop: ($14.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.50</font>, UTG calls $9.50

Turn: ($33.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ???
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-27-2007, 10:23 AM
ama0330 ama0330 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Crushing
Posts: 5,704
Default Re: NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

You can checkraise allin or bet, both are good, though I would lean towards a bet just because if he checks through you lose money when he has QQ because he may call the turn. The board isnt really very ugly because he doesnt have 88 and if he has QQ you are an equity favourite anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-27-2007, 10:30 AM
Baintz Baintz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Chester, UK
Posts: 315
Default Re: NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

Ordinarily I'd agree that he's unlikely to have an 8 or two pair but given history, I think his calling range pre is a lot wider than just pocket pairs or AK.

Should have added to OP that we were 6 handed for most of this time, and he had started to open a few more pots since dropping to 5 handed.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-27-2007, 10:52 AM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 1,936
Default Re: NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

[ QUOTE ]
Ordinarily I'd agree that he's unlikely to have an 8 or two pair but given history, I think his calling range pre is a lot wider than just pocket pairs or AK.

Should have added to OP that we were 6 handed for most of this time, and he had started to open a few more pots since dropping to 5 handed.


[/ QUOTE ]

Regardless of this, what hands that contain an 8 are continuing after the flop? Is he really calling your flop bet with 78 or 89? Even if he is though, its a small part of his range in comparison and you beat alot of that range.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-27-2007, 11:19 AM
infinity235 infinity235 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 438
Default Re: NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

Even though villain may open up his range against hero, the only hands that beat us and are still in his range are 88, JJ, TT, 78 and 89... even though its VERY close with 78 and 89. Don't think a 24/15 guy is gonna play that even against a maniac.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-27-2007, 11:36 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,477
Default Re: NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

[ QUOTE ]
Even though villain may open up his range against hero, the only hands that beat us and are still in his range are 88, JJ, TT, 78 and 89... even though its VERY close with 78 and 89. Don't think a 24/15 guy is gonna play that even against a maniac.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think 78,89 or to a slightly lesser extent 88 are in his range.

I would, however, add AA and 99 to the hands in his range that beat hero.


I probably bet the turn here. On a blanker turn card I probably would have checked.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-27-2007, 11:42 AM
orig!naL orig!naL is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: grinding 25nl
Posts: 329
Default Re: NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

I would definitely bet the turn here and call a shove.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-27-2007, 12:16 PM
Baintz Baintz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Chester, UK
Posts: 315
Default Re: NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

Why has nobody mentioned that I'm now behind to JT and T9 also?

Anyway I had a feeling that he was aching to play back at me, so I checked the turn. I think I acted a bit hastily, as this wasn't a great card to be checking on. Too caught up with 'I'll represent a whiffed AK' and let him bluff me.

Looks like a case of the wrong move at the right time....

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $8.50
SB: $15.35
Hero (BB): $56.75
UTG: $64.05
CO: $20.25

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, UTG calls $5

Flop: ($14.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.50</font>, UTG calls $9.50

Turn: ($33.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $40.25 and is All-In</font>, UTG calls $20.25

River: ($113.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $113.75 Pot ($2 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON $111.75 (+$55 NET)
UTG mucked T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$56.75 NET)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-27-2007, 01:02 PM
ama0330 ama0330 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Crushing
Posts: 5,704
Default Re: NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

Seems fine, nh imo
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-27-2007, 01:08 PM
thoman8r thoman8r is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Bala Cynwyd, PA
Posts: 299
Default Re: NL50: KK rr pot, villain probably thinks I\'m FOS

Yeah I think you played it well. I probably lead the turn against most villains but given your history and read, I think CRAI is just fine.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.