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Old 11-21-2007, 08:39 AM
frtz frtz is offline
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Default JJ 3bet pot

villain was standard tag

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $394
SB: $622.10
BB: $62
UTG: $455.50
Hero (CO): $811.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $52</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($108) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $64</font>, Hero calls $64

Turn: ($236) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($236) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $148</font>, Hero ?

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fold pre? fold flop? bet turn? fold river? im lost :/
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet pot

looks good, now fold river

pf/flop standard with no reads
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet pot

Ya, looks good to me if you fold river.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet pot

Is preflop fold really that standard?
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet pot

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Is preflop fold really that standard?

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No. Who said it was...?
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:16 PM
overAchiever overAchiever is offline
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Default Re: JJ 3bet pot

I often call here, depends on agression frequency of opponent mostly, I would say it is pretty close, though would be easier call of there were more likely draws on the flop that missed ... he offered you good odds but maybe on purpose ?!?
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:19 PM
overAchiever overAchiever is offline
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Default Re: JJ 3bet pot

NOw that I think about it, and read other responses maybe fold is better, if he had AK, or AJ he would likely just check it for showdown value and not turn his hand into a bluff, I guess for the most part you can only beat bluffs as it is unlikely he would value bet anything here that you beat ....
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:20 PM
JFsports JFsports is offline
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Default Re: JJ 3bet pot

I like your line, and I would fold the river.
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:21 PM
Suwalski Suwalski is offline
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Default Re: JJ 3bet pot

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Is preflop fold really that standard?

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No. Who said it was...?

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I think preflop is fairly standard, if we 4bet, we're basically bluffing, cause i don't think that he will get it AI with anything we beat 150bbs deep. Furthermore we have position and it will be easier for us to control the hand on later streets. Folding JJ in the CO to a 3bet from the blinds is just way too weak!

I think you need a better read than "standard tag" to be able to call this river.
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: JJ 3bet pot

I think betting 150 on the turn works ok too. After that, I'm not putting another dollar in the pot tho.
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