maybe this forum can give input...

[jlocdog]

2/4 on ftp 5 handed

UTG: $400
CO: $530
BTN (me): $375

UTG plays like a typical multi tabling TAG. He got stacked by CO earlier when he raised to $14 PF with QQ. CO called with KJo. Flop was J84r. Bet, raise, jam, call. Turn J...

CO originally bought in for $180 if that tells you anything. He also doubled up right away when ended up getting into a minraise war PF with another shorty. He had ATo against KK. Flop AQT.....he chats something like ty vry mch in box. Overall, my impression of him is he over values hands and will eventually go broke. Hopefully to me

UTG raises to $14. CO minraises to $24. I have 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

I call as does UTG.

($78) Flop comes 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG checks. CO bets $45 . I....

Comments on PF and flop appreciated.

[rsxpunk]

this is tough, we can pretty much rule out utg having anything, but donks love to play big pp like this pre. u are getting good odds though so I like a call and reeval. Most likely fold to a turn bet though. Preflop is ok too because utg is coming along for sure and u have position

[nazahl]

I think you should still fold preflop given that you don't really know what utg is gonna do and it sucks to put in 6bbs and then fold. I might be wrong about that though, just think if I was there I'd have folded.

flop: raising seems pretty bad. youre probably ahead here fairly often but you still are in the same spot preflop (not knowing what utg is gonna do) so I think you should play it safe and fold again.

[RUDIKULOUS]

i'm glad you posted this hand because this is a weird spot i seem to get into a lot where i'm confused.

[rsxpunk]

nazahl do you think a decent tag plays an overpair like this ever? referring to utg.

[nazahl]

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nazahl do you think a decent tag plays an overpair like this ever? referring to utg.

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he could have 99, TT, JJ here pretty easily imo, I wouldnt think an 8x is that likely but definitely not impossible getting the odds he is vs. a minraise and coldcaller.

[shpanko]

I don't see why you'd do anything but call.