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Old 10-16-2007, 09:59 PM
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Default 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

Holla. My HUD isn't working for some reason. 9 tabling and readless. Should I just let this flopped straight go for fear that I'm against a fd?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t1765)
Button (t355)
Hero (t5750)
BB (t5630)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t600</font>, BB calls t400

Flop: (t1400) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t800</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t5005 (All-in)</font>, Hero calls t4205
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

call this quick. his range is so massive. definitely not passing this spot up
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

One of his opponents has t355 left. Readless you have to throw it away after the continuation bet on the flop. Your opponent made a great play.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

If I lose though, I still have 80 chips left. Shorty hits blinds before me. Depending on when blinds raise next, he may be all in in the BB.

My first instinct was muck, and then I was like, wtf this isn't omaha... spite called him I guess lol.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

no way we have his range absolutely crushed. we must be at least 65/35 against his range. calling here increases your 1st% distribution a lot.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

How can his range be massive? An unknown will know that there is a shortstack ready to go. Without a read we do not know that our opponent is capable of making a play like this. It is possible that we are up against a made flush, a flush draw, a set or two pair. If our opponent does have air he still has the possibility of splitting the pot.

I did a quick vacuum ICM calculation and if you lose this hand 35% of the time you are giving up some equity I believe.

If you believe that you have a skill edge against your opponents in this SNG there would be no question in folding this hand.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

BTW, without being results oriented I believe that a fold pre-flop is the optimal play here.
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

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BTW, without being results oriented I believe that a fold pre-flop is the optimal play here.

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I'd guess you can shove ATC here - haven't checked.

Shove any two
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

agree with the pr3 flop fold - no equity in this hand
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: 16 stars - flopped str8 on bubble 3 flush board

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BTW, without being results oriented I believe that a fold pre-flop is the optimal play here.

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I'd guess you can shove ATC here - haven't checked.

Shove any two

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That's so ridiculously marginal! Enjoy high variance. I guess you are correct though.
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