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Old 11-29-2007, 07:05 PM
Effen Effen is offline
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

I like it. Pot is massive on the turn and you're committed to call if he pushes anyway so I'd discount a flush. NH.

edit: he's floating that flop with his entire non-monster range. I would think the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] was a good card for you as pair + high flushdraw is a big part of his range on the turn.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

What Effen said.

GG, nice to see the level up.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

I dont like firing the turn because the Ah is probably the scariest card in the deck for the villain to see when he has a garbage floating hand or medium pair/other mediocre hand and he will fold everything you beat to a turn bet. However, it is a great card for villain to bluff if it didnt make his hand. However, if villain is very passive and unlikely to bluff then leading is better.

c/r will get villain to commit more money to the pot when his range is still very wide and you are still crushing said range. It also denies villain a free card as much of his range consists of hands that have outs against you.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

If I check turn, its to call
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

When that turn card hits I no longer am willing to stack off on this board.

Being out of position I opt to use some pot control and check/call turn. I want to see the river card so if I bet and get raised that could prevent me from doing so and by check raising you are now pot commited if he shoves.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

i'd c/c turn, reevaluate
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

I think C/C is more profitable for both Turn and River, better to excercise some pot control especially with the river card. Very few hands you are beating are calling even if it's less than PSP.

Also, I find that when I bet preflop, lead the flop, CR the turn and STILL get called, 333 doesn't feel too strong anymore. Again, C/C is more profitable I think.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

Anyway, results:

Villain tanked on the river. I was pretty sure he didn't have a flush (unless he was one of those slowrolling douches). He finally called with 66 for a better set.

He was equally likely to have 22, so I don't hate my play by any means.
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Old 11-30-2007, 01:43 PM
Landlord79 Landlord79 is offline
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

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Also, I find that when I bet preflop, lead the flop, CR the turn and STILL get called, 333 doesn't feel too strong anymore. Again, C/C is more profitable I think.

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I usually don't agree w/ new guys over Sabr, but this is very sound reasoning. No offense intended Jenson.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: 600 NL flopped set.

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Anyway, results:

Villain tanked on the river. I was pretty sure he didn't have a flush (unless he was one of those slowrolling douches). He finally called with 66 for a better set.

He was equally likely to have 22, so I don't hate my play by any means.

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i think the turn c/r is good if you think he's floating this flop often (which he should) and betting this turn often (which he should as well). but when he calls your turn c/r, i think you're often beat.

you're statement isn't entirely true...yes, he shows up here w/ 22 as often as he does with 66, but that means you're putting him completely on a non-flushing hand as well. is he really ever going to call this turn c/r w/ 88 or something like that? so yes, if you put him exclusively on sets, then your play is fine, but he easily has a flush here as well.
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