Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison

[KneeCo]

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KneeCo,

Now you sound as retarded as Fly.

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So you're saying if you had to bet one way or the other, you'd bet OP didn't break the law?

[xx44]

All,

On case you did not read my response to fly

Nothing I have posted is any "evidence" that I broke a law. That is why a "good" or even a "not bad" jury is so important. I believe you had some preconceived notions of my guilt from what you read. Imagine what a jury looking at 4 30 yr olds, driving expensive cars and living in nice places might think after the DA presents a case. "Well they're here aren't they".

The plea was not me giving a summary of what I did what I did, but the judge asking me questions to respond yes or no to. My lawyer told me what will happen and I should respond affirmatively or the deal will not go through. The judge did not ask me anytthing involving stock promotion, not that it would have made a difference, at that point I would have said that I was responsible for 9-11.

Thanks for saying that I am holding up well. This is the thing that still hurts from the whole experience. The people who fully believe that I got a raw deal are those close to me and those who worked there. Most assume "musta did something".

FWIW during the almost 2 years I was with that company I made $75,000 year 1 and $100k the second all reported.

[BaldElephant]

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Well according to op, he didn't know that he was involved in any illegal activity.

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That's not really a valid defense you know...

[xorbie]

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Who even cares if he broke the law? You guys think anyone is going to win this argument? Stfu already, I want to hear about a dude in jail.

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[miajag]

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KneeCo,

Now you sound as retarded as Fly.

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Not really.

[XXXNoahXXX]

KneeCo,

Obviously most people that plead guilty and go to jail are guilty and I would bet that he did something that broke the law.

As you said yourself that doesn't make it so, so we probably shouldn't string up the OP based upon a "likelihood" or whatever your standard is.

[KneeCo]

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Nothing I have posted is any "evidence" that I broke a law.

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Going to jail is evidence that you broke the law.

Is it foolproof evidence? No, because not everyone who goes to jail broke the law (just like not everybody who gets off didn't), but the vast majority of those who do go to jail did break the law.

Not that I'm saying I assume people who've been to jail necessarily break the law or that the justice system is perfect. There was that death penalty thread a couple of months back that got moved to politics where I posted a bunch about the % of innocent people sent to jail for capital crimes and how it's a tragedy and any worthy legal system will set up rules that would let 10 guilty people go before they imprisoned a single innocent person.

However, if we're speaking English, than evidence is something indicative, something which is helpful in coming to a conclusion (it doesn't have to prove anything beyond a doubt, it just has to point in that direction); and there's no question that having gone to jail points in the direction of breaking the law.

So yes, you have posted evidence that you broke the law.

[KneeCo]

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KneeCo,

Obviously most people that plead guilty and go to jail are guilty and I would bet that he did something that broke the law.

As you said yourself that doesn't make it so, so we probably shouldn't string up the OP based upon a "likelihood" or whatever your standard is.

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I'm not stringing him up at all (hell even if he *did* break the law, he already paid his debt, so there's no reason to string him up in either case).

I'm just answering his question, he asked:
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I would seroiously like to know why you think I broke the law.

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So I answered: he went to jail.

[XXXNoahXXX]

KneeCo,

He was responding to FlyWf who was being retarded. It's not like he was shocked that someone would draw that conclusion, but Fly comes out swinging like the OP was eating babies and posted a picture of the leftovers.

[MuresanForMVP]

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Well according to op, he didn't know that he was involved in any illegal activity.

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That's not really a valid defense you know...

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Someone not knowing, hence not displaying the element of criminal intent doesn't count for anything as a defense?