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11-20-2007, 05:34 PM
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($16) First Hand: Shove With The Flush Draw?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
Button (t1500) SB (t1500) BB (t1500) Hero (t1500) UTG+1 (t1500) MP1 (t1500) MP2 (t1500) MP3 (t1500) CO (t1500) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t350</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t250. Flop: (t730) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1150 (All-In)</font>, MP2 folds. Final Pot: t-420 
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#2
11-20-2007, 05:36 PM
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Re: ($16) First Hand: Shove With The Flush Draw?
In one way or another, im getting my chips in on this flop. I either lead or c/r all in. Dont know which line I like the most.
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#3
11-20-2007, 05:38 PM
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Re: ($16) First Hand: Shove With The Flush Draw?
I probably bet like 450ish and shove any turn for max value.
Anything wrong with that?
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#4
11-20-2007, 05:49 PM
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Re: ($16) First Hand: Shove With The Flush Draw?
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I probably bet like 450ish and shove any turn for max value. Anything wrong with that? [/ QUOTE ] I don't like this. The value in this hand comes from when they fold not from when you flip with them and you win. I either shove like you did or crai. Since youre so short I'm thinking your play is best since you won't have FE if they bet.
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#5
11-20-2007, 05:57 PM
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Re: ($16) First Hand: Shove With The Flush Draw?
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[ QUOTE ] I probably bet like 450ish and shove any turn for max value. Anything wrong with that? [/ QUOTE ] I don't like this. The value in this hand comes from when they fold not from when you flip with them and you win. I either shove like you did or crai. Since youre so short I'm thinking your play is best since you won't have FE if they bet. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for making me wiser. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#7
11-21-2007, 01:34 AM
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Re: ($16) First Hand: Shove With The Flush Draw?
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Is shoving pf bad? [/ QUOTE ] I didn't even look at that, fwiw I don't think I am ever only calling his raise here. Pretty much always I will shove because I hate playing for such a huge portion of my stack at these blinds but I would probably fold before calling the 350.
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#8
11-23-2007, 04:02 PM
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Re: ($16) First Hand: Shove With The Flush Draw?
I guess my thinking was that he must have JJ or better to make that raise, so I can either coinflip or see a flop and know exactly where I'm at.
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#9
11-23-2007, 06:05 PM
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Re: ($16) First Hand: Shove With The Flush Draw?
I hate preflop, 5x bloats the pot so unnecessarily, limp or raise 3x, in the 16s just shove pre when he reraises. At higher games id fold to a decent players reraise pre. As played I like the flop shove.
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