*** OFFICIAL 11/04/07 NFL SNF GAME THREAD (DAL @ PHI) ***

[mogwai316]

I got on the Eagles ML at +170. Yeah, I'm a fan, but I don't bet them unless I think it's a good value (I didn't bet them against MIN last week). Pretty much every stat you can find shows that we've played better than our record this year. Our receivers have shown a big improvement the past couple weeks, and Smith is back to full health now. We even managed to score a couple TDs in the red zone last week. This is a much bigger game for the Eagles than it is for the Cowboys. But both teams always come out fired up when playing against each other. I think we have a 40-45% chance of winning. But if Dawk suplexes TO, that's good enough for me.

[Murphinator]

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Eagles held 6-1 GB Off to 6 pts on drives, and another 3 on the fumble in final minute on punt muff. No TDs.
Held 5-2 NYG to 1 TD.
No TDs for Jets Off.
1 TD for Minny Off.
No TDs for Chi Off for 59.5 minutes.
Ran up 35-7 lead on 5-2 Det, shut out 2nd half.
2 TDs v Wash.

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Dal O is much better than GB O
NYG are vastly overrated, they've beaten 1 decent team and the rest were bad teams. They lose to good teams.
Jets suck
Min sucks
Chi sucks, and they STILL lost
Ill give you Detroit.

Ill take Dal -29 all day

[theclock]

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3-3.5 pts is about right for this game.

Eagles held 6-1 GB Off to 6 pts on drives, and another 3 on the fumble in final minute on punt muff. No TDs.
Held 5-2 NYG to 1 TD.
No TDs for Jets Off.
1 TD for Minny Off.
No TDs for Chi Off for 59.5 minutes.
Ran up 35-7 lead on 5-2 Det, shut out 2nd half.
2 TDs v Wash.

Against teams with a 16-5 combined record, the D surrendered 4 TDs in 180mins, 2 after the game was outta reach. Given up 8 TDs in 7 games total.

Obviously the PHL O has struggled, but with Westy, Smith and Thomas back, and McNabb looking better each week, they are going to play a lot better at home. This is essentially the same PHL team that beat Dallas 2x last year, once without McNabb on the road, except this year they have a run D.

So, yeah, I'll take PHL +29 all day...

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Good points. However, I still believe that McNabb is not an elite QB. Good knee or not, he just isn't impressive. The MNF game vs NYG was a joke. I still don't know how they beat Detroit.

Dallas is not as good as their 6-1 record. There schedule has been much easier than Philly but the Eagles are just what their record states. Below average team. Dallas on the other hand is probably one of the top five NFL teams right now. Don't like this game that much but betting on the Eagles is not an option for me anyway.

[mogwai316]

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the Eagles are just what their record states. Below average team.

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You may just be an Eagles hater, but I don't see how you can logically make the above statement when looking at anything other than pure win-loss record. They have outscored their opponents by 22 points. Defense per game rankings - passing yards allowed #15, rushing yards allowed #8, total yards allowed #9. Offense per game rankings - passing yards #10, rushing yards #13, total yards #12. Takeaway/giveaway +1. They are above average in every single one of those rankings.

I'll grant that our return game sucks, but I don't think that it's quite bad enough to counteract our above-average pass offense, rush offense, pass defense, and rush defense.

[theclock]

I'm definitely not an Eagles hater. In fact, I've had my money on them earlier in the year. The team is not getting the job done. With all the numbers you listed above and yet they are still below 500 makes me wonder if this team knows how to win. The coaching has also been extremely suspect so far this year.

[rush66]

No nuggets from TLT on this game. Too bad...cant figure this one out myself.

[rianb]

Just started posting today...

3-1 +4.5u sides, -1u ML, +7u overall (counting parlays)

DAL -2.5 -120 1H

DAL -3 -130

edit: 1u each

[Jazzy3113]

mog, i think u have to take into the detriot game when you crunch those numbers.

[internetdonk]

2nd half under 22 1 unit..

[Thremp]

Go boys