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Old 11-25-2007, 10:08 PM
Brandonjp13 Brandonjp13 is offline
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Default 4/180, Flopped a set

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t1610)
BB (t6750)
Hero (t3180)
UTG+1 (t4350)
MP1 (t1775)
MP2 (t2115)
CO (t675)
Button (t1705)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t475) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero??

Do we hate a check here? I feel if I bet I scare everyone out since I also raised preflop.
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: 4/180, Flopped a set

I'm pretty new around here, but if you raised preflop aren't they expecting you to take control anyway? Also someone could easily have hit that Ace, or be drawing to the flush or straight. I think a bet here is needed. For both value and to protect your hand. Maybe 300 odd? I'm trying to give my thoughts to help me learn, so don't take this advice as concrete!
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: 4/180, Flopped a set

Actually, take that advice as concrete.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: 4/180, Flopped a set

Absolutely must bet if you have any intention of building a pot..Check raising will only discourage action imo...by betting out, anyone w/ an A, flush or strt draw will come along..
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: 4/180, Flopped a set

guess what if no one has an ace you aren't getting action anyway so lead. don't let kq get free draw.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: 4/180, Flopped a set

make a cbet. as gobucks said, you MUST build up the pot and not let free hands in.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:29 PM
JoeyJoJo Shabadu JoeyJoJo Shabadu is offline
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Default Re: 4/180, Flopped a set

Bet the pot. Draw heavy board. Ace will give you action, you may get some draws to fold.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: 4/180, Flopped a set

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Bet the pot. Draw heavy board. Ace will give you action, you may get some draws to fold.

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We don't want draws to fold, we want draws to call without the proper odds to be doing so. A PSB accomplishes this, although I tend to not like to hit the pot button. This is a spot where I like to bet ~2/3 the pot, or slightly overbet the pot. Overbetting, IMO, is often taken as a weaker bet than 2/3-PSB. You might get someone holding an A or a FD to try and take the pot from you. But ~2/3 pot is my default.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:58 PM
Gar Pike Gar Pike is offline
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Default Re: 4/180, Flopped a set

My thinking is that you should only be checking a flopped set a small %age of the time, to mix up your play.

People never believe you would bet a flopped set, they'll call with just about anything.

On a board like this, I would be happy to take it down on the flop, as, when a better hand becomes possible, I usually do something stupid like set 'em all in with the worst hand.

I hate it when that happens...

Regards

Gar
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: 4/180, Flopped a set

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We don't want draws to fold, we want draws to call without the proper odds to be doing so. A PSB accomplishes this

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QFMFT!

He's not just spouting fnord people, this seems to be
something some of us forgot a long time ago! NL allows
you to set the "price" of any draws against you.

Of COURSE we want action, we just want that action to
benefit us over time, so make your opponents draw
without the proper odds.

-ZEN
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