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Old 11-08-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: turned 2pr gimme a plan

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Old 11-08-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: turned 2pr gimme a plan

not wild about preflop call, but it was practically a minraise...

I like a check/raise followed by a river shove on any non-Jack river.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:51 PM
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I like a push too, I think he has AK or AA or other hands you are beating enough to push...
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:51 PM
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:52 PM
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I don't like a c/r on this very wet board.

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leading allows villain to play pretty perfect against us
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:53 PM
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I don't like a c/r on this very wet board.

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leading allows villain to play pretty perfect against us

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elaborate?
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: turned 2pr gimme a plan

Does button ever have a worse hand when he raises the turn? I probably don't fold at the table but I really don't think you're seeing draws or like AA/AK and stuff because they're way more likely to just call.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: turned 2pr gimme a plan

Leading is good if you're folding to a raise. Seriously, you beat nothing.

Preflop is gah.


c/c turn seems fine also, as he is betting all K's anyway.
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Old 11-08-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: turned 2pr gimme a plan

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I don't like a c/r on this very wet board.

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leading allows villain to play pretty perfect against us

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elaborate?

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all fds/oesds are flatting your turn lead whereas they probably would bet if checked too since your line seems weak.

any hands that beat you are obviously raising and we are stacking off so we want the line that best extracts from draws. if villain is good he can also rep both the diamond/straight draw. So if the river completes ANY draws he should be pushing against u, knowing you can't call with the majority of your turn leading range.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:16 PM
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Does button ever have a worse hand when he raises the turn? I probably don't fold at the table but I really don't think you're seeing draws or like AA/AK and stuff because they're way more likely to just call.

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agreed in general against unknowns, id prob b/f readless even though that seems very nitty.
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