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Old 10-29-2007, 03:00 PM
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don't know what to say other than that i'm sure op has you beat the majority of the time he takes this line. op is only repping a few hands, but all of them are near-nut holdings. if this is the first time op has made a play like this on the villain, it should be hard for the villain to continue with almost all of the hands in his range.

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disagree...bc his range is so narrow i think he is floating more often than he has a hand that is consistent with this range...keep in mind he cant even rep a good A
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - Gettin\' saucy

i know. op's line only reps trips or a boat. but i don't see why, as the villain, you'd put op on an elaborate float/bluff without a read that makes such a play likely. op noted that his image is "solid."
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - Gettin\' saucy

Agree that it seems pretty tough for OP to be representing an A here, what holding can he have that takes this line and satisfies this condition?
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Old 10-29-2007, 03:24 PM
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Agree that it seems pretty tough for OP to be representing an A here, what holding can he have that takes this line and satisfies this condition?

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any reasonable 9 or 33 THAT IS IT
tannen, it depends...but i feel like his floating range is larger than the range he is repping...this gets even worse if he raises the flop with a 9, which may VERY likely be that case

also, i think this is a horrible board to float
and this is a bad turn for your float...the A smacked his range and he prolly isnt folding a good A to you and souldnt be folding any A to you
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - Gettin\' saucy

I'd like this better vs someone who wasn't 17/13. That being said, this probably works a fair amount vs a nit with mediocre hand reading skills, but it's pretty unlikely that he has air here.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - Gettin\' saucy

Hate it. I'd rather call and bet if checked to on the river if I'm gonna bluff. Do you actually raise an ace here when you do have it?
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:27 PM
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I would much rather bluff raise the flop than float.
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Old 10-29-2007, 06:53 PM
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dont like your plan for this hand on the flop, ace is obv a very good card for this move but you are really hoping a higher type card come so u can pull this move. Its so much easier to pull this move when the flop is AAx as people will always but you on the ace
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - Gettin\' saucy

basically just depends how often your opponent double barrels and whether he can hand read or not.

if he is mediocre hand reader and double barrels a lot then this is good. i definitely run this type of play now and then vs tagfish and bad nits.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:31 PM
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basically just depends how often your opponent double barrels and whether he can hand read or not.

if he is mediocre hand reader and double barrels a lot then this is good. i definitely run this type of play now and then vs tagfish and bad nits.

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are you saying hero isn't representing a hand, or just that the range of hands hero is representing is narrow?

and if it's the second one, do you think it's always bad to bluff when you can only represent a few hands?
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