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Old 09-26-2007, 02:08 PM
jogsxyz jogsxyz is offline
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Default Re: Are ANY two cards mathematically playable with huge pot odds?

3. Too complex to solve this for a MTT.
Here's the solution for a 10-player SnG.

Call with AA. Equity about 31%.
Fold. Equity about 32%.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:56 AM
Poker Clif Poker Clif is offline
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Default Re: Are ANY two cards mathematically playable with huge pot odds?

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how do you find yourself in a situation where you only have to call $20 into a $480 pot?

1) you have 24 opponents?
2) you only have $20, which means your $20 doesn't get you a shot at the whole $480.
3) you've previously invested other money into the pot, and only need to put $20 more in.

Which of these apply?

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It was a bet/raise/reraise situation. Every time it came around to me for another call, the odds got better and better, because the raises and reraises were in small increments, while the pot kept growing.
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:05 AM
JOHNY CA$H JOHNY CA$H is offline
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Default Re: Are ANY two cards mathematically playable with huge pot odds?

1. Yes
2. ?
3. No
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:33 AM
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Default Re: Are ANY two cards mathematically playable with huge pot odds?

You will have to make a very clear distinction here between tournaments and cash games when considering the example of everybody going all-in.

In a cash game, you could be in the situation that a table has just been created with 10 players all buying in with the same amount, and you are in the big blind and are dealt Aces. Everybody goes all-in, now you get 9-1 and have around 30% equity. This is a bet you should take everytime.

In a MTT you need to win all the chips to win, you will not even be sure to win any prize money even if you win so you will only increase your chance of winning slightly but you have a 70% risk of being out. If you have any edge on the field at all, you will not even have to look at your cards when everybody goes all-in in front of you, it is a clear fold even with aces.
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Old 09-27-2007, 05:56 AM
Michael Davis Michael Davis is offline
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Default Re: Are ANY two cards mathematically playable with huge pot odds?

"3. Therefore, if you are last to act and everyone else at your table shoves on the first hand of an MTT, you should shove also. You have good pot odds and the pot is large."

You do not have good pot odds without knowing what cards you hold.

-Michael
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