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Old 12-20-2006, 06:28 AM
FortunaMaximus FortunaMaximus is offline
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Default Re: Early in $11 MTT - Draw facing two all-ins - call for value?

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I laughed out loud reading evg's post...

You've most likely got less than 8 outs - do the math and consider what both opponents would plausibly have on that flop.

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FYP and then some.

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Nice hand converter though. Is 97 the new JTs and why wasn't I told? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 12-20-2006, 07:30 AM
Das Budrick Das Budrick is offline
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Default Re: Early in $11 MTT - Draw facing two all-ins - call for value?

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how big is the field.

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jesus christ this is as important as what he's wearing

if you dont understand why leave this forum forever you have like 500 posts wtf

and for the love of god fold

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awesome post
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Old 12-20-2006, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Early in $11 MTT - Draw facing two all-ins - call for value?

Ok, of course you're all right - sometimes I don't really think and just feel like gambling.

I made the call and it turned out to be "correct" as they turned over 8-5o and A-6o, giving me 13 outs. I guess I got what I deserved when the turn and river were both Queens.
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Old 12-20-2006, 07:09 PM
Black Aces 518 Black Aces 518 is offline
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Default Re: Early in $11 MTT - Draw facing two all-ins - call for value?

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Ok, of course you're all right - sometimes I don't really think and just feel like gambling.

I made the call and it turned out to be "correct" as they turned over 8-5o and A-6o, giving me 13 outs. I guess I got what I deserved when the turn and river were both Queens.

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so in a pot raised 3.5x, we end up allin with 97o, 85o and A6o? I love the internets.
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: Early in $11 MTT - Draw facing two all-ins - call for value?

Grunch:

Fold preflop, fold flop.

You are very lucky you had lots of outs here. Porbably 95% of the time you are drawing to a straight and even then, the potisn't giving you enough to call with only 8 outs.


1.78:1 to call, you have 8 outs in the most likely best case scenario, so you would need to be getting ~ 5.75:1 to make a call correct.

Fold.
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: Early in $11 MTT - Draw facing two all-ins - call for value?

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1.78:1 to call, so you would need to be getting ~ 5.75:1 to make a call correct.
Fold.

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Old 12-21-2006, 12:18 AM
ChipSpeak ChipSpeak is offline
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Default Re: Early in $11 MTT - Draw facing two all-ins - call for value?

I don't understand the preflop play, you have 50 bb's, ...
no need to panic...
typical end of tourney w 50 bb's and a call with 97...
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Flop T97, (giving the guy your about to stack a nice hand with his pocket tens) you then exit tourney, spending the next 2 hours wondering why you spewed 50 bb's w 97o...

Unless you are an amazing talent, I dun't know how this hand is a call PF with the action ahead of you.

Postflop... you should throw the hand away, it's value is minimal with that action, 4 outs are the best case scenario...
Make a rule to not make plays without thinking about it, put opponents on a range ...consider position, blinds etc... one bad play is all it takes to hit the exit...
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