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Old 12-06-2006, 02:41 PM
MadMat MadMat is offline
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Default Re: Should I CB? A Quiz.

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heads up and in position I'm betting all of them,


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This isn't the case in all of them, which is what makes it tougher.

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Ooops, didn't see that, maybe I shouldn't be posting from work [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 12-06-2006, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: Should I CB? A Quiz.

1. Yes/no - I do either depending on how i'm feeling it at the time.
2. Yes
3. No - No one is going to call with a worse hand & hero will have to check turn OOP bad bad bad
4. Yes
5. Yes - check turn
6. Yes
7. No (weak) someone may have a made flush, if someone calls no idea if he has a Q or a single spade and if i can bet for value on turn.
8. No - 2 villains yet to act that have lots of holdings that hit the flop.
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Should I CB? A Quiz.

1. always
2. always
3. pretty often
4. always
5. I think I check behind here more often than not. A lot of turncards is good for our hand.
6. cb
7. check. so many random hands have huge equity vs our hand
8. just give up, this flop hit so many different hands
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Old 12-06-2006, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: Should I CB? A Quiz.

I'm a FR'er, so FWIW....

1. YES
2. YES
3. YES
4. NO - because vs 2 villians and my position sucks being sandwiched between them on the flop action
5. YES
6. YES
7. YES
8. NO - 2 villians and I'm OOP versus both of them

EDIT: i'm 50:50 on #4
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:01 PM
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H1

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero... bets 3.75

K high flops are great for cbetting, because people don't play Kx much. This one may require a second barrel if it looks like he's drawing.

H2

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 1 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero... bets 2.25. This is a flop that looks like it missed him. I'll represent 99.

H3

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero... easiest cbet evar. 4 dolla. They always put you on AK.

H4

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.5, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero... 4.50, reraise me at your peril, cause I'm pushing.

H5

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero... depends on villians. This doesn't look like a flop that would hit me, but I could hit a gutshot and stack a slowplayed set or something. OTOH it probably missed villians too.... I check.

H6

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero... bets 4. They always put you on AK. I like my hand and may call a reraise, depending on stacks.

H7

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, Button calls $2, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6.5, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero... I've got to bet big or go home. 50-50.
H8

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 1 folds, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, 2 folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6.75, 3 players)
Hero... OOP, I'm giving up on this one.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Should I CB? A Quiz.

5 no, multiway and my hand isn't very good but I have a draw. I should just check and try to peel one off. Not looking for fold equity. I just want my straight to be paid off if i get it.

8 no, oop multiway, and this kind of flop isn't too great except for my gutshot, but I'll probaly be pushed off regardless if either villian has a piece

p.s. No.7 I like to cont bet a lot, because this flop is actualy one that a lot of people, even the worst ones, are afraid of. Of course if someone calls, I pretty much know it's over.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: Should I CB? A Quiz.

Great analysis Antinome. I agree btw.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Should I CB? A Quiz.

Check 6-8, occasionally check 5, occasionally check 2, occasionally check 1.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: Should I CB? A Quiz.

1-5 I definatly bet.

6. I think is pretty close, readless i check behind. If I had a better read as how he played draws vs. made hands, I would bet

7. I like a check here to pick up information and to take a safe card. If you bet and button has As hes probabaly taking this pot from you.

8. I think this is an easy check, lots of hands will call your c-bet, and even if you hit an A or K on turn it could just cost you more.
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Old 12-06-2006, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Should I CB? A Quiz.

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Assume full stacks at a NL50 table. Hero just sat down and has no reads. Do you CB in these spots?

If you don't CB a hand, why not?

H1

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero...

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Yes. God only knows what SB has, and there is a terrific chance I win the pot right here.

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H2

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 1 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero...

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Depends. With such a weak hand I'm liable to give this up after whiffing the flop, but the pair on the board makes it a bit tempting. Read dependant, but w/o reads I'd say 40% cbet.

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H3

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero...

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No. I'm done with this hand.

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H4

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.5, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero...

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No I don't cbet... I bet for value! Looks to me like as many as 18 outs. I'm jamming this.

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H5

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero...

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Hmmmm, my instincts say yes. Probably spew, eh?

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H6

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero...

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Bet for value. Decent chance you have the best hand, and if you don't you have a lot of outs (~9).

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H7

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, Button calls $2, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6.5, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero...

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Yuck. Bet it big, reevaluate.

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H8

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, 1 folds, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, 2 folds.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6.75, 3 players)
Hero...

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Yes, c-bet.

I'm a NL noob, if anyone want to comment on my comments, the criticism is welcomed.
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