nl50sh: 3-bet pot vs "the cleaner"

[skibbel]

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Regular != good.

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4 of 6 player at the tables are regulars. One bad player UTG+1.

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o rly

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Wow so there are only "good" and "bad" players?

Hell, poker is easy

AND can u please stop spamming my thread, there are two sites and i havent got any advice!

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Your attitude towards the situation is incorrect, whats there to advice on. Relax, take some breath, watch him play a little. I'd love you to do something stupid with 55 or 99 here if I were 3betting light.

[ama0330]

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Wtf, really funny that people advice folding, without knowing my hand.

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You're starting to piss me off. Did you even read my first response to you? Thats your answer. Go back and read it again.

Ill tell you whats funnier, the fact that youre sitting at a table full of regulars, with a more than capable two 2p2er directly to your left, who may or may not be 3betting you light, and you're considering calling with some crap trying to outplay him postflop when you should be folding. Then I tell you exactly how to outplay him, if thats what you want to do, and you ignore me and accuse me of trolling your thread.

WTF

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I'm 4-betting QQ, KK, AA and AK here.
I'm calling his 3-bet with any pocket pair.
If u believe he 3-bets light and might c-bet 80%, then I'd probably check that flop even with 22 and raise his flop-bet.
If he reraises/shoves I fold 22, 33 and 55, call everthing => 88.
If he calls my raise I take lead on turn.
But maybe thats "retarded"..., dont know...

[skibbel]

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Wtf, really funny that people advice folding, without knowing my hand.

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You're starting to piss me off. Did you even read my first response to you? Thats your answer. Go back and read it again.

Ill tell you whats funnier, the fact that youre sitting at a table full of regulars, with a more than capable two 2p2er directly to your left, who may or may not be 3betting you light, and you're considering calling with some crap trying to outplay him postflop when you should be folding. Then I tell you exactly how to outplay him, if thats what you want to do, and you ignore me and accuse me of trolling your thread.


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You assume i got crap, cause i started the thread.

So you assume i'm a donk, wants to be cool and outplay a 2+2er.

That's what you make me think about your posts.

I just made 2 REALLY REALLY clear questions:
1. What is your calling range, assuming he's 3-betting light?
2. What the flopplay with some spefic hands.

Now tell, have u answered any of my questions?

No, you tell me i should fold mostly preflop (you don't even know my opening range here).
You tell me about table selection (i like that table).

Some Regs at my limit are very easy to play against, so why shouldn't i?



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and you're considering calling with some crap trying to outplay him postflop when you should be folding.

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By the way i had TT, not any crap.
But you really seem to be prejudiced about the hand, even if you don't anything about me & my hand.

[ama0330]

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If hes likely to be holding a wide range and you want to bluff, put in a small 4bet.

If hes likely to be holding a wide range and you want to play for value, call him preflop and trap him on the flop

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So you assume i'm a donk, wants to be cool and outplay a 2+2er.

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Yeah, I guess I assume youre a donk. Thats what I said right? What I don't need to assume, because I know, is that you have no idea what you are even asking, because Ive already answered your question, as quoted above just in case you missed it twice. The whole fact that you are talking about "what to do with specific hands" shows me that you have no idea what you are asking, hence the reason that you dont understand my answer.

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1. What is your calling range, assuming he's 3-betting light?
2. What the flopplay with some spefic hands.

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These two questions are moronic, because you dont have a calling range, you have a value range, and a bluffing range, just like I said, twice. You bluff with your bluffing range, and value play with your value range. How you bluff or how you value play is up to you, and if you are looking for someone to tell you how to play every single hand in your range, you've come to the wrong place.

Threads like these used to annoy me, now I get to lock them. Im sorry that I cant go into more detail, but I guess if youre going to be an [censored], I dont really have to help you, do I?