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11-14-2007, 04:54 PM
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6.5 - A7 facing a limper on the bubble
Full Tilt Poker Game #4103823231: $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) (31175525), Table 1 - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:03:11 ET - 2007/11/07
Seat 3: ocha (6,230) Seat 5: massivepot (2,300) Seat 7: MMRobinson (2,435) Seat 9: MrDannyOcean (2,535) MrDannyOcean posts the small blind of 120 ocha posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #7 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to MrDannyOcean [Ad 7h] massivepot calls 240 1 fold MrDannyOcean... The limper was somewhat loose passive but not a total idiot. I don't have the exact stats but say 30/10ish i suppose. The BB is this scenario is a big donkey playing at 60/24. What's your play here and why? 
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#2
11-14-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: 6.5 - A7 facing a limper on the bubble
We can shove here since the villain is limping v loose and still does raise some hands pre. His limping is a big indicator of weakness, and while our hand isn't that strong it's ahead of his range so we can find a shove. Also we have big FE here and it's the bbl so BB and CO should be reluctant to call lightly.
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#3
11-14-2007, 05:29 PM
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Re: 6.5 - A7 facing a limper on the bubble
Vers, what do you think about completing? I'm normally not the kind of player who messes around late in the tourney, but BB was a huge donk, and was calling a lot (sorry i didnt explicitly say that in OP). He was a maniac-donk.
Do you think completing and trying to flop a hand against a LP and a uberdonk, THEN getting it all in is reasonable? I don't trust BB at all to fold lightly, and it's the bubble, and i think i have good value postflop when i hit. Do you ever use this line against the most awful players?
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#5
11-14-2007, 06:15 PM
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Re: 6.5 - A7 facing a limper on the bubble
if i was bb id shove all day. if sb was closer to our stack id shove all day. Looks like a complete/fold to bb's coming push.
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#6
11-14-2007, 06:30 PM
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Re: 6.5 - A7 facing a limper on the bubble
I fold. It's a disaster getting your push called on the bubble this deep unless you have a high pair. he has to be calling very tight for it to be +EV. It's in fact negative if he's calling with 44+, A8s+, AT+, KQs, giving him a generous open range and putting BB on 8% overcall range. And it quickly gets really bad opening his call range.
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