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Old 02-11-2007, 10:53 AM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default 3--KQs shortstacked All-In vs Raiser?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed)

UTG's been playing a little loose and raising a good bit. I was thinking about folding this KQs but because I was shortstacked I pushed.

Hero (t1160)
CO (t1465)
Button (t2360)
SB (t2790)
BB (t2695)
UTG (t4530)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1135</font>
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: 3--KQs shortstacked All-In vs Raiser?

I'd fold.
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:30 PM
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Default Re: 3--KQs shortstacked All-In vs Raiser?

yes utg calls with a wide range you should fold and try to open push first in.
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 3--KQs shortstacked All-In vs Raiser?

OK. This hand is not strong enough to push without the first in vig. Would you be folding everything except AKo and TT+ and pushing those?
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Old 02-12-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: 3--KQs shortstacked All-In vs Raiser?

He has to be raising roughly &gt;30% to be ahead of his range. That combined with the fact that there's still 4 left to act makes this a fold.

I suppose if you had a betting tell on his min-raise (ie only shown down weak hands after min-raising) you'd figure to be ahead of his range, but I'm not sure it's not still a fold with those left to act.

I don't know exactly what range would be a good push, but I'd guess 77+, AJs+
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Old 02-12-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: 3--KQs shortstacked All-In vs Raiser?

I hate not pushing this bc of a minraise, but he has to be raising a TON here for us to be ahead. No good, fold.
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Old 02-12-2007, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: 3--KQs shortstacked All-In vs Raiser?

I'd fold here. Basically no fold equity and you only have a marginal hand considering you're going up against a raiser. I'd be pushing A10s+ and 88+. Also depends on the buy in, at lower levels against goofy opponents you could have a bit of FE, but I doubt it.
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Old 02-12-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: 3--KQs shortstacked All-In vs Raiser?--Results

Villain had 99 and despite flopping a King and turning another, he flopped a nine also.

In retrospect, I think I made this play because I probably got my 6max limit thinking mixed up with SnG thinking. This would be a standard reraise in 6max limit...but the whole game is not on the line there.
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