($24) Ax in SB vs. tight UTG limper. 2 hands

[Pocketbear]

=== Hand #1 ===

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t40/t80
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t2050
UTG+1: t2180
CO: t2290
Button: t2230
Hero: t1535
BB: t3215

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t80 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t120)</font>, 2 folds, Button calls t80 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t200)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1535</font>...

UTG limper is 11/7 6-handed. Too reckless?


=== Hand #2 ===

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t40/t80
7 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1770
UTG+1: t1390
MP1: t2310
CO: t1980
Button: t1350
Hero: t1020
BB: t3680

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls t80 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t120)</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t200)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t240, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets t160</font>, Hero calls t160 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t400)</font>, BB folds.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t560, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in t780</font>...

UTG limper is 13/4 7-handed. Check/call on the turn again or OK?

[donkeykong2]

i think both are bad. first one the risk/reward ratio is too high and on the 2nd hand you just spew, the 13/4 player probably doesnt play many worse aces like that and if you check the turn and he bets again you can probably fold.

[Q..]

I dont like shoving AJ into 11/7 limpers with such risk/award ratio. You got time, check it.

Second well.. hes tight utg limper.. if you think hes empty might call flop , but you'd have to check/fold turn river. he wont bet it wo better ace in most cases. might aswell fold flop and wait a better spot.

[vers]

AJo I just complete especially since utg is nitty.
A8s I check/fold flop vs a tight utg limper.

[Scotty_12]

The first one i really d ont like vs a tighty, especialy not relatively early in the tourney. AQ and 77 would be my range here I think.

Hand 2 is a flop check/fold, and as played you are only giving money away to better hands on the turn. I doubt hes limping A3/5/6/7 enough here to make a shove worth it

[Pudge714]

How big a sample for hand 1?
I probably shove.
Hand 2 call flop.
Check turn.
I don't mind shoving preflop.