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#1
02-06-2007, 11:15 PM
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NL100 | Butt Ugly Turn
How much, if any? Opponent seems moderately loose & passive, and is more passive when OOP.
Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game 6 Players LegoPoker Hand Converter <font color="black">Stack Sizes</font> BB: $50.5 UTG: $106.50 MP: $104.50 Hero (CO): $151.45 BTN: $79.75 SB: $98.5 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.5, 6 players) UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, BTN folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP calls $6.50 <font color="black">Flop:</font> 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($21.5, 2 players) MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, MP calls $15 <font color="black">Turn:</font> 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($51.5, 2 players) MP checks, Grunchie ... ? 
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#2
02-06-2007, 11:19 PM
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Re: NL100 | Butt Ugly Turn
Check. Call river or bet like 30 if its checked to you
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#3
02-06-2007, 11:24 PM
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Re: NL100 | Butt Ugly Turn
F that, you want money from his weaker made hands. If he has a Q he'll let you know, I'm surprised he didn't lead into you on turn if he has it and he's passive.
Against loose passiv players you want to value bet until they tell you they have you beat. This guy doesn't seem like a bluffer and you want value from KK/JJ/TT. If he check-raises you you can safely fold, but his calling range is a lot bigger than QQQ and his c/ring range is only better hands. Value bet turn and value bet blank river if checked to
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#4
02-06-2007, 11:33 PM
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Re: NL100 | Butt Ugly Turn
bigger preflop.
I would check the turn here. It would suck for 99-JJ to fold and I don't really want to get stacked by a queen (yes we can fold to hte c/r, but it also means we are folding the best hand sometimes)
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#5
02-06-2007, 11:38 PM
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Re: NL100 | Butt Ugly Turn
Good points, I think the most important point which I forgot about before is that he is much more likely to call a river bet with JJ/KK/TT if we check turn then if we bet it. I think I change my mind. If he has KK I still think we are losing some value because I think he'll call turn and river VB's though
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#6
02-06-2007, 11:40 PM
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Re: NL100 | Butt Ugly Turn
easy check.
a) you're not deep b) you can't expect to win a big pot with AA all the time (eg- one reason you're posting this is b/c you really wanted to win a big pot with AA and thus are prolly looking for reasons to bet the turn). only time i bet this turn is against someone who is too bluffy.
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#8
02-07-2007, 12:09 AM
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Re: NL100 | Butt Ugly Turn
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[ QUOTE ] bigger preflop. [/ QUOTE ] what if he raised to 10.50? then would you be like "awesome raise!"? [/ QUOTE ] lol i do think that raise IP is sufficient enough? no?
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#9
02-07-2007, 06:52 AM
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Re: NL100 | Butt Ugly Turn
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[ QUOTE ] bigger preflop. [/ QUOTE ] what if he raised to 10.50? then would you be like "awesome raise!"? [/ QUOTE ] no. A PSR is to $12, so I wouldn't go smaller than that, and I dont really like the idea of rerasing preflop and still giving my opponent ~ 16:1 implied
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#10
02-07-2007, 11:42 AM
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Re: NL100 | Butt Ugly Turn
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] bigger preflop. [/ QUOTE ] what if he raised to 10.50? then would you be like "awesome raise!"? [/ QUOTE ] no. A PSR is to $12, so I wouldn't go smaller than that, and I dont really like the idea of rerasing preflop and still giving my opponent ~ 16:1 implied [/ QUOTE ] Meh. I'm not giving him 16:1 implied. I don't suck quite that bad. I've been making this PF 3bet in a wide variety of situations lately, and it's working very well.
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