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Old 09-28-2007, 06:42 PM
Mr_Moore Mr_Moore is offline
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Which are the strongest proof that the bible contains the words of god?
Which are the biggest flaws in the bible? Include both big and subtle contradictions. Or what ever you wish to include.
Why are humans the middlemen to god? Why should another human direct me to him? Why communicate his words through a book which he knew people would question? Why should we believe in it? Why is questioning god bad?
Everything we have achieved so far we have achieved through knowing, not through hoping or guessing. Why accept an assumption?
How can i believe?
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Old 09-28-2007, 06:49 PM
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Which are the strongest proof that the bible contains the words of god?
Which are the biggest flaws in the bible?


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Two books which might help:

Evidence That Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.

Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties by Gleason Archer. ( I haven't read this one because I use the Tektonics web site, which I also recommend, but have seen many good reviews from theologians I respect).
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:01 PM
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Which are the strongest proof that the bible contains the words of god?
Which are the biggest flaws in the bible?


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Two books which might help:

Evidence That Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell.

Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties by Gleason Archer. ( I haven't read this one because I use the Tektonics web site, which I also recommend, but have seen many good reviews from theologians I respect).

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Thanks, perhaps you want to share what you learned from the first book? You are religious?
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:05 PM
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Thanks, perhaps you want to sha re what you learned from the first book? You are religious?


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I'm a conservative, evangelical, semi-Calvinist, Bible believing, old earth non-evolutionary Christian. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

The Evidence book is, for me, mostly a good introduction into things like how we got the Bible, why it's reliable, and some stuff on archeology. The best feature is it has an extensive bibliography of more scholarly works - if you get interested in one area, you have good references for in depth study.
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:13 PM
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Thanks, perhaps you want to sha re what you learned from the first book? You are religious?


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I'm a conservative, evangelical, semi-Calvinist, Bible believing, old earth non-evolutionary Christian. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

The Evidence book is, for me, mostly a good introduction into things like how we got the Bible, why it's reliable, and some stuff on archeology. The best feature is it has an extensive bibliography of more scholarly works - if you get interested in one area, you have good references for in depth study.

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I see, would it be possible to get some explanation to "why it's reliable".
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:32 PM
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I see, would it be possible to get some explanation to "why it's reliable".


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We know the texts we have are virtually 100% accurate relative to the originals. So we can believe we have the Bible as it was written.

Why we think it's God's Word is a much more complex question. One good indicator is the way archeology has confirmed much of what the Bible says about people, places and events of that time.

A good site dealing with science and the Bible is reasons.org. Though I think they somewhat overstate the case, they do go into a lot of detail as to why there is no real conflict and a lot of positive stuff of how they agree.

One of the best Bible scholars of the last 60 years was F.F. Bruce . This online book goes into some detail about the New Testament.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:37 PM
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<font color="blue"> I'm a conservative, evangelical, semi-Calvinist, Bible believing, old earth non-evolutionary Christian. </font>

When you say, "non-evolutionary" Christian...

I wonder if you've ever considered that over 99% of all organisms that ever lived on earth have gone extinct. This would appear to make God a pretty incompetent creator, wouldn't it?
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:59 PM
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This would appear to make God a pretty incompetent creator, wouldn't it?


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Only if the extinction wasn't planned.
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Old 09-28-2007, 08:01 PM
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Check this website for a bunch of contradictions among other things:

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Old 09-29-2007, 12:42 AM
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Which are the strongest proof that the bible contains the words of god?

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What's a 'god'?
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