"opening up" at uNL = drop in bb/100?

mce86 · #1 11-12-2007, 08:23 AM

Your overall numbers arent as meaningful as how you adjust to different players. Playing looser just sop ur stats look looser is ridiculous. If your playing loose against a 10/7 player and then you tighten up against a 24/14, ur playing bACKWARDS. The players around you should determine ur play.

MadMike · #2 11-12-2007, 10:33 AM

You'll naturally go from 15/8 to 15/12 as you move up because there will be way fewer hands with 2+ limpers in front of you, so you'll be limping way less.

Even if you use the exact same PF strategy, your stats will change depending on your opponents. Play a lot of passive tables with calling stations and you'll have a bigger gap between your VP$IP and PFR stat because limping is profitable, and limping behind in position with SC's is often more profitable than raising.

Higher limits give much fewer profitable limping opportunities.

ActionStan · #3 11-12-2007, 11:56 AM

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Play a lot of passive tables with calling stations and you'll have a bigger gap between your VP$IP and PFR stat because limping is profitable, and limping behind in position with SC's is often more profitable than raising.

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Do you have any data to support this? Raising is more volatile, but I find it a little hard to believe that raising limpers who call too much pre-flop is less profitable than trying to catch hands. It's not like these guys play back much. They are passive limpers after all.

King Spew · #4 11-12-2007, 12:40 PM

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If your playing loose against a 10/7 player and then you tighten up against a 24/14, ur playing bACKWARDS.

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You need to explain this better or noobs trying to learn may read this incorrectly.

Xanthro · #5 11-12-2007, 02:14 PM

I don't think you need to loosen up at all, especially just in prepartion for possible changes as you move up, MONTHS from now.

As you said, your Bank Roll doesn't allow you to move up, you're not in a position to reload cash if you bust, so grind at 25NL being tight and make some cash.

My stats at 25NL are around 13/9/3, and it's silly profitable.

Grind to $1,000, then move up to 50NL. Normally, when people move up they actually become tighter until they get a feel for it, so I don't see the logic in loosening up in order to prepare to move up.