M of 3.6 in WSOP $1500 event ~150 away from Money play A9 off?

[Bush13]

Hi Everyone,

This is my first post, but I keep debating how I ended my $1500 tournament this last weekend so I would like to hear the communities opinion. I was in event #49 in the WSOP that had a turnout of over 3100 people. I made it to the dinner break with about $8000 in chips, and when I came back after a half hour the blinds went up to 400/800 with a 100 ante. So after a little bit I ended up in first position with $8000 looking down at A9 off suit, and there were ~480 people left in the tourney (first payout was $2600 at 324). I calculated my M to be less then 4, 8000/2200; and I knew I had to make a move soon and I didn't get even a decent hand before the A9. Now I'm in first position and the blinds are about to knock me down to less then 3 M, so in my eyes I have to try an all in with the A9. Some other factors that convinced me to do this, is that the table was playing extremely tight and I had already done this move twice before the dinner break and no-one had called me (once from early position, and once from middle position), I was hoping since we had the dinner break that those moves weren't fresh on anyones minds. Next I had one of the biggest stacks in the tournament to my left, he had more then 10 times what I did, so I thought even if I did wait for a better hand after the blinds hit me he would call me for sure, but there was a good chance he wouldn't here with so many people behind him. Anyways I did the all in and someone in late position called me with AK and I was knocked out.

What has been bothering me, is that in my eyes I made the right move because it is what gave me the best chance to keep competing in the tourney, but on the other side of it should I have just been happy to possibly get blinded out, but at least have a chance to maybe get in the money? The table was playing very slow and tight. I mean in the long run I don't think I should get in tournaments to just give myself a chance to get in the money I want to give myself the best chance to win and I think that is what I did, but man it would have been nice to get like 324th place and that $2600. So did I make a mistake?

Thanks in advance for any replies!

[djk123]

9 or 10 handed table I'm assuming.

AJ is a clear push. AT is close. A9 is fold.

[s33w33d]

Jamming with A9o UTG? Tempting but I'd likely fold it.

[Mr.Poker]

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9 or 10 handed table I'm assuming.

AJ is a clear push. AT is close. A9 is fold.

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[JackOfSpeed]

Yep, other posts are right -- this isn't a horrible push, but it's incorrect. We need AJ+ or ATs+. Just let it go, and find a better spot.

[JFJB]

This is very clause. From a pushbot chart standpoint, with 9 oponents and an M of 3.6, this push was +EV. I can not call a +EV push a mistake. Plus, considering that the live MTT players at the WSOP are generally tight, this push was even more +EV. Too bad you ran into AK.

You probably already know this but being eliminated in a tournament, especially the WSOP, feels pretty bad! It is often after an elimination that most poker players start think real hard about what went wrong!

Whenever you enter a tournament, just accept the fact that you will either win the whole thing (not too often) or your tournament will end in a sickning manner. Do not make the mistake of over analyzing the hand you busted on. Look elsewehere.

[curtains]

Pretty sure this push won't be +EV, especially if table is 10 handed.

[JackOfSpeed]

JFJB --

Huh? It's a bad push according to the pushbot chart if your opponents are calling with a tight range (66+, A6s+, A8o, KQs). You'd need an m of 2.7 or less for it to be +cEV if that's your opponents' calling range. Their range is probably a little tighter than that, but I think that's actually bad for you since it eliminates hands you are ahead of or racing against (like KQs, 66, and 77, probably), leaving mostly hands that have you crushed when you're called.

Again, according to the pushbot charts (which are far from perfect, mostly because of the bizarro calling ranges they set up), this is a bad push if the table has a "tight" range, because when we're called, it's usually going to be pretty ugly. And with 8 or 9 players behind you, there're a lot of people who could wake up with a big pocket pair or AQ+.

[renodoc]

What about the "post-dinner break increased aggro factor?"

People know you had a long break to think about your low M and your need to get it in, so you push lighter and they call ligher.

[curtains]

btw what the hell is the pushbot chart? Can I see it?